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[Albion] Potter DeZerbe and Hurzeler
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KZNSeagull
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You make your own luck.
Shaktarman
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- Sep 19, 2022
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I think Poter and Hurzalar are often not singled out when comparing the three of them.
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Mentioned on another thread.
The perception of being ‘lucky’ this season is partly I think because the oppo is getting more disallowed goals against us from offsides.
But that’s not luck - or that we have suddenly becoming the darlings of FA match officials - we are beginning to defend much better imo - part of that is an improvement in our playing the offside trap as we press and counter press with a higher defensive line. We had more offsides this season than any other PL team after 4 games.
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Are you suggesting yesterday was just down to luck and possibly Spurs too?
Tom Hark Preston Park
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- Jul 6, 2003
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Unanswerable. Any responses will be heavily weighted in favour of the most recent 90 minutes of football. Or in extremis a recent 45 minutes of football. Check out the numerous thick-eared threads started at HT v Tottenham. It's a bit like the knee-jerk accusing the ref of being a Big Six Homer 20 minutes into a game. And then he suddenly isn't when decisions go our way. Just daft and meaningless football talk
seagull_special
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I like the fact that we seem more flexible and adaptable, two games in a row we weren’t really in the game first half and but came back into both games. Welbeck’s goal really was against the run of play. What we do have in spades is discipline and character. It was a really pleasing performance yesterday but certainly not pretty. I genuinely thought we would have a slower start to the season with so many new players, loss of Gross, Lallana and for all intents and purposes Milner and the team adapting to FHs tactics. This squad is really impressive. With lots of new players out and/or taking time to bed in it is very promising for the rest of the season as they get back up to speed. Ayari and Igor have impressed too and Rutter has made a super start.
Justice
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In the Potter era especially lots of possession and shots from outside the box don’t win games. Fans lord the opposition keeper although in my view that defence splitting pass never came in those games or the fight wasn’t there to get in to them and open them up.
Rutter is determined that cross he put in for Welbeck against Spurs is what was missing in those dull possession games we couldn’t win at home.
BBassic
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Football results are the culmination of hundreds if not thousands of decisions made by players, coaching staff and referees. You can class the outcome of those decisions as "lucky" but Hurzeler is as responsible for them as Anthony Gordon or Declan Rice.
Apologies if this makes little sense, I'm full of COVID and my brain is feeling wonky.
Apologies if this makes little sense, I'm full of COVID and my brain is feeling wonky.
brighton_tom
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- Jul 23, 2008
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Probably evens itself out. We should have got 3 points vs Ipswich and Forest but didnt, and a few other games we probably shouldn't have had 3 points but did.
kevo
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- Mar 8, 2008
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Yeah, don't think we would have had any complaints if the Man U or Spurs games had ended in draws.
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Perhaps lucky we were not 4 down at half time but outstanding in 2nd half At Everton they missed 2 sitters in first 20mins then we dominated. Fortunate we did not go 2-1 down against Utd
It’s too early to say with FH but I like what I see so far. We are prioritising winning games of football rather than getting 75% possession or failing to convert an xG of 12. There has been luck - good (Man United) and bad (Ipswich) - but he’s had one real stinker of a game (Chelsea) and a half (Spurs) and learned and adapted quickly and pragmatically. Very happy with our choice so far.
London Irish
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I think we got plenty but they just get forgotten about as yesterday’s will be once we’ve watched another 40 or 50
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Agree only one and half very poor performances. Yesterdays performance reminded me of our game against West Ham when they sat back and scored on breakaway and I moaned to WH supporters for weeks about approaching games like that. Maybe Hurzeler has the knack of getting the balance right. Which is not easy. Just look at Palace and WH now struggling when trying to move on from defensive game played by previous managers
5Ways Gull
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Like Gary Player said "the harder I work the luckier I get"
Tom Hark Preston Park
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Would be nice to buck our achilles heel v Wolves. Sooooo many points dropped v teams that just rock up and park the bus
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Very fine margins in tight games.
Often that margin is swung either way by a bit of fortune. We didn’t make Isak miss a one on one, a bit of luck for us, but we certainly made him pay for it.
Call it margins, fortune, luck, the thing that seems to swing it your way is confidence and belief. If that is on your side, Danny takes a superb touch and scores the winner. If there’s the slightest bit of self doubt, you miss a far simpler chance as Isak did moments before.
I dare say Welbeck’s had far easier chances this season, but right now his belief is sky high.
Often that margin is swung either way by a bit of fortune. We didn’t make Isak miss a one on one, a bit of luck for us, but we certainly made him pay for it.
Call it margins, fortune, luck, the thing that seems to swing it your way is confidence and belief. If that is on your side, Danny takes a superb touch and scores the winner. If there’s the slightest bit of self doubt, you miss a far simpler chance as Isak did moments before.
I dare say Welbeck’s had far easier chances this season, but right now his belief is sky high.
What do you define as luck? To me it’s a dubious referring decision going for us. Or a striker with an open net shooting wide. Everything else is routine football. I didn’t see any luck yesterday.