withdeanwombat
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Yasiel Puig.
It's more that everyone in India will know Kohli - that's 1.4bn people immediately.A quick google search would suggest that baseball is the most popular sport in nine countries.
Does cricket REALLY have a much bigger geographical spread than baseball? I'm not convinced.
I, for one, have never heard of Virat Kohli (because although I used to follow cricket when I lived in the UK, since moving over here it has fallen completely off my radar).
And that is why I specifically said "geographical spread" rather than population. And I also wouldn't claim that more people have heard of Ohtani than Kohli.It's more that everyone in India will know Kohli - that's 1.4bn people immediately.
Your baseball nine are, I think...
Cuba - 11m
Dominican Republic - 11m
Japan - 125m
Nicaragua - 7m
Palau - 0 essentially
Panama - 4m
Puerto Rico - 3m
Taiwan - 23m
Venezuela - 28m
So, that's 212m people. We can add in the US (333m), Canada (39m) and give you Mexico too (127m) and you get to about half the population of India. Kohli then has all the Indians not currently living in India, as well as all cricket-playing nations.
I'm struggling to think there are more people in the world who know Ohtani is than know who Kohli is.
Not overlooking the Million Dollar Arm efforts in the early noughties. Didn't one or two get contracts from this?And that is why I specifically said "geographical spread" rather than population. And I also wouldn't claim that more people have heard of Ohtani than Kohli.
Interestingly, I believe that MLB are making efforts to grow the game in India. A lad (Arjun Nimmala) with Indian heritage was drafted by the Blue Jays at position 20 last year and MLB produced an interesting documentary that looked at his story and followed him on a trip to the mother country (he was actually born in Florida but his parents emigrated from India):-
Arjun Nimmala's MLB journey takes him home to India | 02/04/2024
The story of Blue Jays prospect Arjun Nimmala, who travels from the United States to India and learns of his roots both in sports and familywww.mlb.com
Had never heard of that before your post.Not overlooking the Million Dollar Arm efforts in the early noughties. Didn't one or two get contracts from this?
And he has got an otherwise pretty mediocre LAD team into the Division Series, if not furtherNobody can do what he's doing. He's just unique.
Fancy calling Britain greatIt's called the World Series because it was created by a US newspaper called The World. It is their series.
I think you underestimating Yankee imperialism and their ability to push their cultural product virtually everywhereIt's more that everyone in India will know Kohli - that's 1.4bn people immediately.
Your baseball nine are, I think...
Cuba - 11m
Dominican Republic - 11m
Japan - 125m
Nicaragua - 7m
Palau - 0 essentially
Panama - 4m
Puerto Rico - 3m
Taiwan - 23m
Venezuela - 28m
So, that's 212m people. We can add in the US (333m), Canada (39m) and give you Mexico too (127m) and you get to about half the population of India. Kohli then has all the Indians not currently living in India, as well as all cricket-playing nations.
I'm struggling to think there are more people in the world who know Ohtani is than know who Kohli is.
With respect, I think you may be underestimating America’s popular (in the sense of working class, notwithstanding some rich investores0 culture, like baseball, jazz, bluegrass, zydeco, etc. This really isn’t like Elon Musk or the Facebook guy pushing their money-making crap around the globeI think you underestimating Yankee imperialism and their ability to push their cultural product virtually everywhere
In terms of geographic spread, cricket's played at the test level in twelve countries spread across every continent. Off the top of my head I struggle to think of a major sport other than football that is clearly more widely distributed. You can obviously whack the diaspora from various cricketing countries (mainly India really) around the world onto that.And that is why I specifically said "geographical spread" rather than population. And I also wouldn't claim that more people have heard of Ohtani than Kohli.
Interestingly, I believe that MLB are making efforts to grow the game in India. A lad (Arjun Nimmala) with Indian heritage was drafted by the Blue Jays at position 20 last year and MLB produced an interesting documentary that looked at his story and followed him on a trip to the mother country (he was actually born in Florida but his parents emigrated from India):-
Arjun Nimmala's MLB journey takes him home to India | 02/04/2024
The story of Blue Jays prospect Arjun Nimmala, who travels from the United States to India and learns of his roots both in sports and familywww.mlb.com
I'd be disappointed if a lot of Brits in the 25-40 age range couldn't name at least some of Roger Clemens, Mike Sciosa, Wade Boggs, Jose Canseco, Don Mattingly, Ken Griffey Junior, Steve Sax, Ozzie Smith and Darryl Strawberry.I don't think American or not makes any difference. The vast majority of Brits would not be able to name a single baseball player, past or present.