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[Politics] The Labour Government
- Thread starter Super Steve Earle
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With shouty talk of “fat cats” to garner cheers.
Super Steve Earle
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Funnily enough, the same as in 2024 when Labour, Reform and the rest won votes by virtue of not being Tories.
- Oct 17, 2008
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Absolutely. The Tories deserved a kicking.
armchairclubber
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Wrong thread.
- Oct 17, 2008
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Don’t be redic!
Curious Orange
Punxsatawney Phil
Probably fits on this thread as it does critique policy, and worth a view. I don't agree with everything in it, as certainly heat pump technology for heating can be very good if properly implemented. But I am concerned by the loss of our ability to make our own steel, and the lack of local resilience in the energy sector. To my mind exporting our strategically important industrial base in order to meet a climate target is the basically sweeping the problem under carpet.
The assumption is that the world is going to remain a friendly and cooperative place, when unfortunately the events of recent years indicate otherwise.
The assumption is that the world is going to remain a friendly and cooperative place, when unfortunately the events of recent years indicate otherwise.
beorhthelm
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- Jul 21, 2003
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most danergous is silly click bait, which is a shame because it'll discredit some of the useful points being raised. Miliband will be allowed to run with the zero emission ball until it becomes evident its not deliverable, and dependable power is prioritised.
- Feb 22, 2014
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Couldn’t listen to it all. The same thing has been said for years by climate change deniers. They always fail to mention the subsidies fossil fuels get when they spout about economics. Yes, wind and sun are variable but tides aren’t. I grew up in Seaford and the tides are very dependable. Unless a profit can be made nobody wants to know. Tidal barriers could protect the coast and produce energy but no-one can see how to make a profit out of it so it won’t happen It is what it is.
nicko31
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This guy clearly doesn't understand how the global pricing of energy works. What he fails to acknowledge is higher bills are driving by the global price of fossil fuel prices. Instead tries to blame to increase level of renewables on the grid causing Intermittency . This is something regularly pedalled by lobby groups in the sector, they know the writing is on the wall for them in the medium term.
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Curious Orange
Punxsatawney Phil
The YouTube algorithm is a bit rubbish and encourages such titles, there is some quite interesting and balanced commentary buried beneath many a lurid headline.
Yes, it was a bit hit and miss I found. I don't think he mentioned the subsidies either part of the industry get.
I'd almost forgotten about tidal power, the main problem as far as I can tell is the sea destroying the technology! However the O2 tidal project up in Scotland looks interesting, hope they can find a way to scale the technology into arrays without disrupting the local environment too much.
I think both things are true though, aren't they? Intermittency of renewables causes demand on other parts of the energy mix.
The bits keep on coming ;
www.theguardian.com
I am sorely disappointed in this government already.
‘Don’t do it again’: Miliband condemns £30,000 Labour breakfast with minister
Party offered company bosses event with business secretary, but Ed Miliband says Jonathan Reynolds knew nothing of it
www.theguardian.com
I am sorely disappointed in this government already.
Withdean South Stand
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- Mar 2, 2014
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Oh please. Let's not pretend the Conservatives didn't spend their time in power accepting absolutely everything they could. I thought it was terrible when they were doing it and it's terrible now Labour are doing it but it shouldn't be reported as if Labour are doing something dodgy which has never happened before and is totally beyond belief.
Hopefully this focus and attention on the freebies will drive behavioural change, because it's obviously grubby and inappropriate, but it's also obvious that the "outrage" is largely staged and an inconsistently applied standard.
Hopefully this focus and attention on the freebies will drive behavioural change, because it's obviously grubby and inappropriate, but it's also obvious that the "outrage" is largely staged and an inconsistently applied standard.
beorhthelm
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- Jul 21, 2003
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that's the significant issue with renewables that gets overlooked or deliberately hidden. the additional infrastructure, storage, backup power dont get added to the total cost for the wind farm. then there's the whole market CFD model skwed to make earlier renewables look cost effective, then makes the marginal cost higher for all energy. the right approach would be to show the costs, to drive incentives to make overall project viable - obvious option would be hydrogen storage/combustion which will scale far better than alternatives. until then we'll continue to need gas backup (or coal in some countries).
You should have seen the shite we were served up with at public school 60 odd years ago. It certainly wouldn’t have been appreciated by the Bon Viveur lefties on here.
No names mentioned.
I may be misunderstanding your post, but hopefully an apprenticeship will give them a skill for life enabling them to earn decent money for the rest of their working days. It would more than make up for losing a couple of quid an hour as a youngster, in what could be a dead end job.
Was still shite in the 80’s.You should have seen the shite we were served up with at public school 60 odd years ago. It certainly wouldn’t have been appreciated by the Bon Viveur lefties on here.
No names mentioned.
Despite the misconception of public school privilege, we were still served chips with everything, grim processed meat roll, packet mash etc.
The only difference, we were able to eat it in a lovely, grand, wood panelled, freezing cold and drafty hall that we had to queue up in for ages while the upper years and prefects pushed their way to the front of the queue every day.
I still recalls the day we got a salad bar;
A bowl of cold sweetcorn
A bowl of cold baked beans (??)
Some water melon slices.
Oh! Happy days.
It’s the trauma of the sausages wot done it.
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I can sympathise and when I tell my state educated wife some of the tales from those very far off days ( thank f—k
), she can’t believe it.I really think that some on here who have banged on about public schools, but actually have no idea what it was like would have struggled to survive intact.
So different now, thankfully, but it was a pretty brutal austere life back in the day.