[Albion] What's happened to Adam Webster.

mikeking said:

Hello “Dazzer”, and @BN9 BHA. Thank you for the comments aimed towards me, however given you both follow me on Twitter for a public reply, and have the ability to drop me a message, I would rather you did that instead of bringing it onto a site where you perhaps think I may not see it.

I publicly apologised for my melodramatic tweet towards Webster mid-game on Saturday, but the tweet shared there was merely me defending myself from someone who had repeatedly used my tweet to justify their own comments about Webster. The person in question (“The Dutch Maldini FYI”) and I have sorted it publicly.

On the “Ethan Saggers” individual, him trying to use my comments to justify him literally telling Webster that he deserves to be publicly hung makes me sick, and as such I called him out on it. There is a fairly big debate on here of the line between criticism and abuse, for me if it’s based on a footballing basis it’s criticism, as soon as you directly wish harm on someone it becomes abuse. I would expect it’s things like this (which he has publicly called out before) that made him deactivate.

Whilst my tweet was melodramatic, it was merely football-based criticism and in no way made to be abusive, however one I do regret as aware it isn’t constructive at all. A good example of why you shouldn’t pick your phone up during a break in play and why I won’t in the future.

Webster has been a great servant for 5 years now, particularly outstanding during his first three seasons. Struggled a fair bit over the last 12 months but equally one of our own. On a personal level I wish him nothing but good things.

UTA.

(Apologies for the long post, but felt I should get that off my chest)

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dazzer6666 said:

I posted your apology on here yesterday for balance

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sussex_guy2k2 said:

If we’re banning someone from a match because they’ve called a player s**t then the bar is incredibly low. And, quite frankly, we’d never have any fans going to games. What next, are we going to silence NSC posters for thinking someone is a bit rubbish?

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Paulie Gualtieri said:

On the subject of online abuse I see a moronic Sheffield Wednesday fan mocked the death of the West Brom fan at the game on Saturday (rip) and the consequences have caught up with him.

Arrested, lost his job, banned from massive for life and also a lifetime ban by his golf club (where he was captain)

Richard Crisp - if you want a read

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Weststander said:

A year ago this Massive supporter was convicted after mocking young Bradley Lowery who’d died from C.
https://www.sunderlandecho.com/news...ng-bradley-lowery-at-sunderland-match-4414277

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One Teddy Maybank said:

Just appalling.
What is wrong with people?

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mikeking said:

Hello “Dazzer”, and @BN9 BHA. Thank you for the comments aimed towards me, however given you both follow me on Twitter for a public reply, and have the ability to drop me a message, I would rather you did that instead of bringing it onto a site where you perhaps think I may not see it.

I publicly apologised for my melodramatic tweet towards Webster mid-game on Saturday, but the tweet shared there was merely me defending myself from someone who had repeatedly used my tweet to justify their own comments about Webster. The person in question (“The Dutch Maldini FYI”) and I have sorted it publicly.

On the “Ethan Saggers” individual, him trying to use my comments to justify him literally telling Webster that he deserves to be publicly hung makes me sick, and as such I called him out on it. There is a fairly big debate on here of the line between criticism and abuse, for me if it’s based on a footballing basis it’s criticism, as soon as you directly wish harm on someone it becomes abuse. I would expect it’s things like this (which he has publicly called out before) that made him deactivate.

Whilst my tweet was melodramatic, it was merely football-based criticism and in no way made to be abusive, however one I do regret as aware it isn’t constructive at all. A good example of why you shouldn’t pick your phone up during a break in play and why I won’t in the future.

Webster has been a great servant for 5 years now, particularly outstanding during his first three seasons. Struggled a fair bit over the last 12 months but equally one of our own. On a personal level I wish him nothing but good things.

UTA.

(Apologies for the long post, but felt I should get that off my chest)

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It is what it is but please speak directly to me in the future if you find that you have a problem with something I have said.

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maltaseagull said:

I wonder if any of those dishing out the abuse saw the fantastic goal saving clearance he made?

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sussex_guy2k2 said:

I know, but your initial post asked the question: “At what point in the abuse do the club get involved and ban him from games?”.

My answer, based on what I’ve seen, is never. He’s been a bit mean, and that’s nasty and pathetic and not something I would do myself, but you can’t ban someone for being a bit mean unless they cross some very specific boundaries.

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Wardy's twin said:

Fact that Webster felt it necessary to shutdown his twitter account because of perceived abuse is enough for me to say the club should ban the 'abuser' even if it is 5 games it establishes a line which should not be crossed..

I was there and I guess most of the crowd shouted FFS Webster or similar , probably not audible by him and forgotten by most as the gam moved on. He certainly realised he had had got it wrong, doesn't need a 16 year old kid ramming it down his throat.

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Paulie Gualtieri said:

On the subject of online abuse I see a moronic Sheffield Wednesday fan mocked the death of the West Brom fan at the game on Saturday (rip) and the consequences have caught up with him.

Arrested, lost his job, banned from massive for life and also a lifetime ban by his golf club (where he was captain)

Richard Crisp - if you want a read

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sussex_guy2k2 said:

So you accept your own hypocrisy, but you want someone else to be banned, but not yourself?

Look, X is a horrible social media platform. I’ve deleted my own account as you can’t have a reasonable conversation on there with anyone. But your argument for banning a kid from football is weak, and only serves to highlight your own hypocrisy.

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Milano said:

I think the lines are becoming blurred. However when I am at the game I admit to "FFS playername" probably at least once every game, if anything I've toned it down with age. I highly doubt said player hears/cares, if they do it would normaly be because the cock up is so bad that it's half the stadium groaning. I would not dream of posting these feelings on said players SM account. Why would anyone do that? The only reason I can come up with is that when at the game letting off steam is part of it and gets you through it, I've normally calmed down before I'm at Falmer station; whereas if you're not at the game who do you vent at? The kids, the dog, the fridge? Add alcohol and you've got the potential for someone to overstep the mark. Modern day problem. Just listen to Talkshite or 5Live on a Sat evening to hear "Martin the Man U fan vent his fury from his sofa", these fans feel they need a voice but if they don't go to the match then no ones listening.

I normally see NSC as a bit of a safe zone, as I assume that a player wouldn't come on here. That said I'm now self imposing a ban on visiting this place after we've lost and I've had a few beers......

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Weststander said:

Venting on nsc after a loss, disappointing home draw or performance is as old as nsc. Completely natural and imho healthy to the poster to share that. As long as it’s not spiteful/personal against club staff, I think it’s fine. To me, give it a few hours, and most people move on.

I see some self-declared ‘optimists’ can’t handle that, giving the impression they wish people p1ssed off folk shouldn’t post.

All pretty harmless. When you look at Spurs or ManU fora after a loss, it’s pretty nasty and very personal against players.

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Littlemo said:

@mikeking If you put things onto a public platform like Twitter then people can and will talk about them elsewhere. They have every right to because you put it out there and after all, you think it’s fine to say this stuff in public.

That’s why you should think about what you post first, rather than issuing apologies after the fact (especially now the person you should be apologising to in Webster has gone off Twitter and won’t see it).

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