I wonder why the Daily Mail has such a problem with a politician who stood up to racist rioters rather than pandered to them?
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[Politics] The Labour Government
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Hastings gull
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- Nov 23, 2013
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Genuine question. What has Starmer done wrong in sending his kid to stay in this house during revision?
I’m no lefty and far from a fan of Starmer but this all seems a bit like muck raking.
Yes you’re right, I was much more critical of Boris Johnson when he accepted a free holiday from the son of a KGB agent who he then put in the House of Lords. I personally find the KGB to be much more detestable than Kier Starmer’s son, I appreciate not everyone might think this and I would never dare to speak for anyone other than myself on that particularly hot take.
beorhthelm
A. Virgo, Football Genius
- Jul 21, 2003
- 36,034
no one asking who was looking after Starmer junior in the rather expensive flat, making sure he does his revision, gets an early night eats his breakfast, so on.
Weststander
Well-known member
The much publicised tax clampdown on non-Doms, a Tory policy in the end, Labour always pushed for it and are seeing it through, was originally meant to raise £3.2b per annum (OBR figure). It will now likely cost money. Reason being, largely they’re moving overseas. I’ve followed this over the last year, Italy, France and the Emirates are welcoming them.
https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news...on-non-doms-may-raise-no-money-officials-fear
Many economic commentators predicted that would happen,
Highlighting how difficult it is to act in a global environment.
https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news...on-non-doms-may-raise-no-money-officials-fear
Many economic commentators predicted that would happen,
Highlighting how difficult it is to act in a global environment.
Hastings gull
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- Nov 23, 2013
- 4,652
dsr-burnley
Well-known member
- Aug 15, 2014
- 2,637
Quite apart from the fact that you have largely answered your own question, there is also the issue that wages were a lot lower in the last century than they are now and that household expenses (eg. food) were a lot higher. The widespread belief that all pensioners bought two or three houses for fourpence and sold them for millions, is fictional. Even if they did buy a single house cheaply, it isn't earning interest or rent because they are living in it.
clapham_gull
Legacy Fan
- Aug 20, 2003
- 25,886
I think the problem many of us feel is that the last Government wasn't subject to the same level of attention over allowed expenses.
Farage's media activity is far more alarming than Starmer's glasses.
Starmer's issue is definitely hypocrisy but the British trait is to treat hypocrisy as far worse than the thing you are being hypocritical about.
The measure should be different, did your activity or decisions adversely affect the public purse ?
The Tories spunked billions down the drain sorting their mates out over the PPE scandal. Starmer's trousers haven't cost me a penny.
That said, the first thing that should have happened would have been to pass legislation that removed heating from MPs allowance in their "second" home. Technically nonsensical, but would have dampened the negative PR.
- Oct 17, 2008
- 14,680
Sorry to repeat this caveat every time, but I promise you the one time I don’t, the usual three posters will ignore the million times I’ve said it and hammer the one time I don’t:
I don’t care about the expenses/gifts/lonbying furore. It always goes on, always has and always will. I don’t care if he watches football from a free box, or gets free clothes. Unless there is a clear conflict of interest which can be proven. Which is the same rules for every party and politician. The Tories given £bns to their mates for dodgy COVID deals is an actual scandal, not a £2,000 pair of spectacles.
BUT.
It’s a wider shit show and Starmer and his government are shitting the bed. It’s like pre-shit at the moment, a wet fart, with the full mattress defecation lurking not far behind.
WFA is a f*** up. Plain and simple. It’s wrong. Most of their party agree it’s wrong. The public hate it. It has directly caused Labour and Starmer’s ratings to crash.
The leaks, this early, are very very bad. This is not a happy cabinet. The Sue Gray situation is a big embarrassment for them. You shouldn’t have a PM a few months after an election making headlines for having to say who wears the trousers. Yet that’s exactly what we’ve had.
But then things take a turn for the crazy when they let Shabana Mahmood speak in public.
This will be humiliating for Starmer. As we know, Sir Keir Starmer is the former Director of Public Prosecutions. “Prison isn’t working for women” says Mahmood. Errr… overseeing this was her boss.
Then there’s the actual content of what Mahmood is saying, quote; “my ultimate ambition is to close women’s prisons”.
Right, so what happens to the tens of thousands of female killers, paedophiles, drug dealers and other scum who happen to have a vagina? Are they released?
This is the bonkers shite that the Tories were desperately coming out with towards the end of their government with their own nutters like, Braverman et al.
What I wanted when I backed this Labour Party for government was quiet, sensible, slow, methodical, boring change done by dull, competent people in grey business wear.
What we’re getting is disharmony, a platform the the lunatic fringe (imagine a justice secretary saying their “ultimate ambition” is for Myra Hindley and Lucy Letby to be released and women’s prisons shut down”).
They need to course correct urgently because this is showing signs of getting worse and worse and worse.
PULL UP, PULL UP!!!
I don’t care about the expenses/gifts/lonbying furore. It always goes on, always has and always will. I don’t care if he watches football from a free box, or gets free clothes. Unless there is a clear conflict of interest which can be proven. Which is the same rules for every party and politician. The Tories given £bns to their mates for dodgy COVID deals is an actual scandal, not a £2,000 pair of spectacles.
BUT.
It’s a wider shit show and Starmer and his government are shitting the bed. It’s like pre-shit at the moment, a wet fart, with the full mattress defecation lurking not far behind.
WFA is a f*** up. Plain and simple. It’s wrong. Most of their party agree it’s wrong. The public hate it. It has directly caused Labour and Starmer’s ratings to crash.
The leaks, this early, are very very bad. This is not a happy cabinet. The Sue Gray situation is a big embarrassment for them. You shouldn’t have a PM a few months after an election making headlines for having to say who wears the trousers. Yet that’s exactly what we’ve had.
But then things take a turn for the crazy when they let Shabana Mahmood speak in public.
This will be humiliating for Starmer. As we know, Sir Keir Starmer is the former Director of Public Prosecutions. “Prison isn’t working for women” says Mahmood. Errr… overseeing this was her boss.
Then there’s the actual content of what Mahmood is saying, quote; “my ultimate ambition is to close women’s prisons”.
Right, so what happens to the tens of thousands of female killers, paedophiles, drug dealers and other scum who happen to have a vagina? Are they released?
This is the bonkers shite that the Tories were desperately coming out with towards the end of their government with their own nutters like, Braverman et al.
What I wanted when I backed this Labour Party for government was quiet, sensible, slow, methodical, boring change done by dull, competent people in grey business wear.
What we’re getting is disharmony, a platform the the lunatic fringe (imagine a justice secretary saying their “ultimate ambition” is for Myra Hindley and Lucy Letby to be released and women’s prisons shut down”).
They need to course correct urgently because this is showing signs of getting worse and worse and worse.
PULL UP, PULL UP!!!
nevergoagain
Well-known member
Remember the Tory meltdown thread? , chock full of the same level of accusations which also played out in the media. I don't recall such a clamour to defend them and "let them get on with running the country", quite rightly so but if you dish it out you have to expect it back.
I criticise all equally. I have done so for some of Starmer’s behaviour.
nevergoagain
Well-known member
Not a dig at you fella, the Tory thread is stacked full of the usual suspects and I remember clearly the likes of Beth Rigby & Peston going hell for leather at the Tories whenever the chance arose.
armchairclubber
Well-known member
looks like you've fallen for it. Lammys speech is unbelievable in it's hypocrisy.You are clearly a true Albion fan. You start with great and noble expectations but secretly you know it’s the hope that will kill you in the end!
I disagree that it’s wrong. Why should my tax money be given to Alan Sugar to heat his Florida mansion?
- Oct 17, 2008
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