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[Albion] DISGRACEFUL stat
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Fair call
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Brain dead MUG SHEEP
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OK, so 4 is still the correct number of goals scored.
And you've just reminded me of an incident which still makes my brain itch. I think the only time I've been more FURIOUS at an incident / result, was when we were basically banned from scoring or winning at Spurs a couple of years ago.
Anger
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- Jul 21, 2017
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Machiavelli
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Yep. Pretty sure it was Adrian that was in goal still putting his wall in place when the ball went in.
You're wanting evidence before jumping on the bandwagon? What is wrong with you?
He hit the bar, while Giggs scored.
Wilka
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Was it Solly March in the FA cup against Millwall? (Another massive keeper f*** up)
- Jul 10, 2003
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I was wondering whether the one on Sunday was 'off the training ground' with Dunk and Jack doing that jumping up and down thing and Jack successfully blocking the keeper's line of sight until he ducked out of the way and the ball went over his shoulder. Then I saw the look of shock on his face as he ducked and I'm not so sure 
Jimmy Grimble
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That wasn’t even the one I was thinking of! I was thinking when they won the league here - Mahrez maybe?
father_and_son
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Isn't the accepted rule of thumb is that it takes 10,000hrs practice to become an expert at something?
By that standard, only the exceptionally dedicated players get to be really good... Beckham staying back after practice and kicked ball after ball after ball seems to be the required dedication because by your maths, they only rack up the hours by 22 if they did nothing else during training
Seagull Stew
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It's a far cry from when Paul Watson would line up a free kick at the edge of the box one minute, you knew the keeper would be picking the ball out of the net the next minute.
Milano
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I'll whisper this............. Pascal isn't taking them anymore............ (as much as I love him, his free kicks? Less so).
Withdean South Stand
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- Mar 2, 2014
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Personally, I'm still not over Coutinho rolling one under our wall.
- Apr 19, 2018
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Just an hour at the end of each training session would bring them to 1000 hours by 22, granted if they did nothing else they'd get to the 10,000. The 10,000 hours thing is a myth though, and it's more about the quality of the time and effort than it is about the time taken (though time is obviously needed). But putting it in normal job terms, if I had 1000 hours to get better at something important to my job and I showed no demonstrable improvement at the end of that time I'd expect my boss to be having words.
Michael Owen is another example - he said he'd practiced the run and shot he scored against Argentina hundreds and hundreds of times so when he got the ball he already knew he was going to score if he got in a position to do so because he'd practiced it so often he never missed from that range and angle. Shearer the same with penalties. Relentlessly banging them in the top corner until he could confidently take a shot most would consider too risky.
I think it's probably much more complex, and the motor skills needed to be a rounded footballer aren't the same as those required to be a dead ball specialist perhaps. Hence you get some great at one thing and a bit iffy in the rest of their game (Ward-Prowse seems to have this reputation) and the ones who can do it all - Beckham, Messi, Ronaldo - are incredibly rare. All round skills are more valued than ever in the modern game and maybe that's why fewer freekicks are scored. But that's not as much fun to acknowledge as it is to call out footballers for being workshy and needing to practice more.
Jimmy Grimble
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That was Coutinho, you’re correct. Prem match.
So I now have 4 against us:
Ward-Prowse
Mahrez
Foden
Coutinho
All at The Amex. Surely we’ve conceded one away from home in the Prem?
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Stato
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- Dec 21, 2011
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Well, despite the personal slight in the thread title, I've done a bit of work. Here, by my reckoning is each team that's been in the EPL during our eight (seven and a bit really) seasons in order of the average number of free kick goals scored per season that they've been in the division since 2017/18. We're 19th out of 31, so bottom half and, out of the teams to have stayed in the division every season, we're only above West Ham and Everton, so not great. However if you look at 24/25 only we're top. We have one and everyone else has none.
| Team | Seasons | Free Kick Goals | Average per Season |
| Southampton | 7 | 17 | 2.428571 |
| Man City | 8 | 14 | 1.75 |
| Brentford | 3 | 4 | 1.333333 |
| Leicester | 7 | 9 | 1.285714 |
| Liverpool | 8 | 10 | 1.25 |
| Newcastle | 8 | 9 | 1.125 |
| Luton | 1 | 1 | 1 |
| Stoke | 1 | 1 | 1 |
| WBA | 2 | 2 | 1 |
| Leeds | 3 | 3 | 1 |
| Arsenal | 8 | 8 | 1 |
| Palace | 8 | 8 | 1 |
| Chelsea | 8 | 7 | 0.875 |
| Man Utd | 8 | 6 | 0.75 |
| Tottenham | 8 | 6 | 0.75 |
| Aston Villa | 6 | 4 | 0.666667 |
| Wolves | 7 | 4 | 0.571429 |
| Huddersfield | 2 | 1 | 0.5 |
| Brighton | 8 | 4 | 0.5 |
| West Ham | 8 | 3 | 0.375 |
| Bournemouth | 6 | 2 | 0.333333 |
| Burnley | 7 | 2 | 0.285714 |
| Fulham | 5 | 1 | 0.2 |
| Everton | 8 | 1 | 0.125 |
| Ipswich | 1 | 0 | 0 |
| Cardiff | 1 | 0 | 0 |
| Swansea | 1 | 0 | 0 |
| Norwich City | 2 | 0 | 0 |
| Nottingham Forest | 3 | 0 | 0 |
| Sheffield United | 3 | 0 | 0 |
| Watford | 4 | 0 | 0 |
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Stato
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Here's the players who have scored direct free kicks during that time. Notable things seem to be 1) Ward Prowse has one very special talent; 2) Maddison's are all for Leicester. Are Tottenham not letting him take them? 3) In Seven and a bit seasons only 25 players have scored from a direct free kick more than once; 4) All those times we have had to watch Kane winding up his huge boots from distance and his record's no better than Dunky's.
| Ward Prowse | Southampton | 16 |
| Maddison | Leicester | 8 |
| Alexander-Arnold | Liverpool | 6 |
| Trippier | Newcastle (3) & Tottenham (1) | 4 |
| Alonso | Chelsea | 3 |
| Cresswell | West Ham | 3 |
| De Bruyne | Man City | 3 |
| Eriksen | Tottenham | 3 |
| Mahrez | Leicester (1) & Man City (2) | 3 |
| Milivojevic | Palace | 3 |
| Neves | Wolves | 3 |
| Silva | Man City | 3 |
| Toney | Brentford | 3 |
| Willian | Chelsea, Arsenal & Fulham | 3 |
| Xhaka | Arsenal | 3 |
| Digne | Everton & Aston Villa | 2 |
| Eze | Palace | 2 |
| Foden | Man City | 2 |
| Gundogan | Man City | 2 |
| Mata | Man Utd | 2 |
| Mount | Chelsea | 2 |
| Olise | Palace | 2 |
| Raphinha | Leeds | 2 |
| Shelvey | Newcastle | 2 |
| Wilson | Liverpool | 2 |
| Alvarez | Man City | 1 |
| Aubameyang | Arsenal | 1 |
| Chadli | WBA | 1 |
| Cornet | Burnley | 1 |
| Defour | Burnley | 1 |
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| Doughty | Luton | 1 |
| Dunk | Brighton | 1 |
| Fernandes | Man Utd | 1 |
| Fraser | Bournemouth | 1 |
| Gross | Brighton | 1 |
| Gueye | Everton | 1 |
| Hourihane | Aston Villa | 1 |
| Jensen | Brentford | 1 |
| Kane | Tottenham | 1 |
| Lacazette | Arsenal | 1 |
| Luiz | Aston Villa | 1 |
| Mac Allister | Brighton | 1 |
| McGinn | Aston Villa | 1 |
| Mooy | Huddersfield | 1 |
| Moutinho | Wolves | 1 |
| Murphy | Newcastle | 1 |
| Odegaard | Arsenal | 1 |
| Pereira | WBA | 1 |
| Phillips | Leeds | 1 |
| Rashford | Man Utd | 1 |
| Ronaldo | Man Utd | 1 |
| Rondon | Newcastle | 1 |
| Saivet | Newcastle | 1 |
| Sanchez | Arsenal | 1 |
| Schar | Newcastle | 1 |
| Shaqiri | Stoke | 1 |
| Soares | Southampton | 1 |
| Son | Tottenham | 1 |
| Stanislas | Bournemouth | 1 |
| Sterling | Chelsea | 1 |
| Sterling | Man City | 1 |
| van Aanholt | Palace | 1 |
| Welbeck | Brighton | 1 |
| Young | Man Utd | 1 |
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Garry Nelson's Left Foot
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What I'm taking from that is Dunk is as good as Ronaldo.