POSKETT AT THE VALLEY
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Clapping! We don’t need no stinking clapping.
[Albion] GOSBTS - No words onscreen today
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pocketseagull
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- Dec 29, 2014
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Words on the screen allow new people to join in, helps people who may need assistance due to memory or medical issues. It's surprising the club have instead decided to side with actual adults who are just embarrassed. I don't get it, far more embarrassing that the atmosphere is awful most weeks, why take away any help needed for people to join in?
Super Steve Earle
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Watched MoTD 2 this morning. They opened our match with the teams walking out, then cut to the KO. So no Sussex by the Sea on there any more. On reflection, I prefer our anthem while the teams come out, in particular forcing the opposing team to listen as they walk towards the pitch. A bit more intimidating than pre-kick off.
- May 8, 2018
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I’d argue that Right Here Right Now is more intimidating and more upbeat than GOSBTS
Kalimantan Gull
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Could they put them in the programme? Would that be a good compromise? Or hand out lyric sheets at the turnstiles for those who want them?
Uh_huh_him
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- Sep 28, 2011
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I couldn't. It was pretty loud around me in the North and felt it was the best one so far.
Where were you sitting?
I heard the Forest singing their Mull of kintyre song immediately after we finished.
I thought it was a direct response, to how good our singing was..
- May 8, 2018
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I’m in the North Shelf, I heard an undertone of Mull Kintyre whilst GOSBTS was being sang but it seemed to stop (almost like they gave up) it started again when it went quiet, which is a credit to the noise we generated
um bongo molongo
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It sounded good on TV. And the new timing means it’s on TV and not when they cut to the adverts, which is probably good for our ‘global brand’.
I didn't say the club was just for English speaking Southerners. I said that we are a club based in Southern England and that this should be our identity and culture. If we have international fans then great. But I can't see Liverpool putting the words to YNWA on the screen to make it easier for a Chinese tourist to sing along. The Chinese tourists (as an example) come along to experience the Liverpool culture and Anfield atmosphere. They don't expect the club to adapt things for them!
It isn't narrow minded at all, and it's utter nonsense to say we can't afford to think like that if we want to stay competitive in the Premier League. We stay competitive in the Premier League due to the brilliant way Bloom runs the club, nothing to do with whether we have words on the screen for GOSBTS or not.
The fact is that GOSBTS was as good as it's ever been yesterday, with no words. If people really can't remember the words but are desperate to sing them, then it's not difficult to Google them and have them in front of them. I imagine we are talking about a tiny, tiny minority of people here.
I don't personally see someone coming from Japan once a season to see a game as a proper Brighton fan anyway. Yes it's brilliant that they do, and it's great that they spend £100 in the club shop. But they are basically Premier League football tourists. I used to go and watch Cadiz once or twice as a season as my Dad lived there. It was brilliant, I bought a shirt and followed them online etc. but I certainly wouldn't have seen myself as a proper fan, I was a football tourist. Absolutely nothing wrong with that, but I also certainly wouldn't have expected (or wanted) Cadiz to do anything at all with me in mind- it was going to support a club in another country with another culture that was the attraction of it!
This is all a bit of a pointless discussion anyway, as the club are clearly running a trial this season of changing things slightly, and none of us are going to be able to change that. I think it's going well.
brighton_tom
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- Jul 23, 2008
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They sang a bit when the drum beat of SBTS first kicked in but were then were quickly drowned out. I sit on the half way line so get a pretty fair idea of the acoustics. Unless you sit next to the away fans. Thought yesterday worked well. Nothing embarrassing about it.
- May 8, 2018
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Official Old Man
Uckfield Seagull
Slightly off topic but sticking with the advertising neons around the pitch.
Most clubs show adverts for a betting company or a foriegn country as the teams come out.
Well done to the Albion who advertise the club as the teams come out.
Most clubs show adverts for a betting company or a foriegn country as the teams come out.
Well done to the Albion who advertise the club as the teams come out.
- Oct 20, 2022
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When I said when it comes to deciding best what works for our fans, it’s not all about “being English speaking Southerners”, you said of Brighton fans:
Sounds like this might be a reflection of some broader political beliefs about immigrants which is probably why we don’t see eye to eye on this.
That again is an extreme example and stretching the point I was making about our Albion members who struggle for whatever reason to understand or retain the lyrics to GOSBTS
Your specific example aside - I actually don’t believe you have to attend Brighton games more than once a season to be a “proper fan” OR to submerse yourself in the culture of Sussex.
People emigrate, suffer financial hardships or just get too elderly to make the trip. Even some of our oldest supporters have never lived in Sussex or particularly interested in its culture.
We have fully paid up supporters all over the World and others with disabilities living right in Brighton as well as Brighton & Hove Albion supporting immigrants to the UK for whom English is not their first language and who may struggle to join in the singing without the words. So again, you are attempting to conflate every Brighton & Hove Albion member who does not have English as their first language, or has a short memory or only visits the Amex at once a year with Chinese visitors to the UK and therefore should fit in with what you want.
It isn’t just semantics to say that no Brighton fan is a “visitor“ at the Amex, wherever they come from in the world or however often, they are our home fans and I think the Club should make them feel welcome and included. The sad reality for the old nostalgic Goldstone fan base is we are not ’lille ole Brighton‘ playing town football the 2nd division anymore and this isn’t the 1980s - we are a Globally recognised Premier League Club playing in a Globally competitive football league in 2024 with an income dependent on global trade and international membership. Times have changed along with our inclusion policies too.
However, going on about Chinese fans who visit the Amex once a year is going off the point - which is not everyone of our paid up fans understands the audio language nor can learn or retain the lyrics regardless of whether they live in Sussex or not, that should be enough not to insist on a measure that excludes them..
Wow.
So firstly I'm accused of being a racist due to not saying we don't need the words on the screen to GOSBTS as they weren't there yesterday and it was the best one for ages.
Then...
Actually, can't be arsed. It's not important and I have too much to do in the real world to argue about it.
I must get back to posting hate speech on X about immigrants and watching Tommy Robinson documentaries.
If the club have decided to side with some who might feel embarrassed rather than consider that there might be some that rely on them, then I am really disappointed in the club. I thought BHA were better than that.
Iggle Piggle
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- Sep 3, 2010
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I always enjoy NSC when a perfectly reasonable, polite, reasoned reply is met with someone called them racist for absolutely no reason.
Seagull58
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You could put the lyrics in a note on your phone and sing along heartily
Moshe Gariani
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- Mar 10, 2005
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A precious gift to all those who need the words to SBTS...
p.s. SING LOUDER - DON'T CLAP
p.s. SING LOUDER - DON'T CLAP