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[Albion] how good are we, actually?



Han Solo

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May 25, 2024
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Fabian is ok but if Roberto had a £ 183 000 000 backing who knows what he would have achieved. It is all about how young Fabian is, his test will come but he is far from the messiah atm
Reviving Jeffrey Dahmer and rotating him with Jason Steele?
 




PILTDOWN MAN

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I think it’s just hard to tell tbh. We’ve gotten the results but tbh, I’ve thought we’ve looked poor in most of the games bar Everton. The style isn’t that clear and the passing has been really poor as has a lot of the play at times.

These are things that can come right with time and practice, so it could just be early season issues, especially with such a lot of new players, who themselves are trying to get up to speed and learn.

I am glad fans are staying positive and backing the team because it’s still the best position we’ve ever been but I am not sure I agree with a lot of the calls that we look great and the players all look amazing and a cut above everyone else - nearly everyone out there is misplacing passes and making mistakes. I think we should recognise that too.
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Super Sub

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I still think we have the potential to be a match for all but the top 2.
We are still settling in to the FH way and have some fantastic players yet to be integrated in to the squad.
A fully fit Ferdi and March on the right flank and Estupinan (if he recovers his form) and Mitoma/Adingra on the left will light up many a match.
The midfield once settled will be very competitive when you have Wieffer, Baleba, O’Riley, Hinsh and Ayari fighting it out for a spot.
Up top will be equally as competitive for a starting berth what with Welbeck, JP, Georginio and Ferguson all wanting to play.
Havent even mentioned Minteh, Gruda, Enciso etc and the centre half’s pretty much pick themselves… would be a little concerned if we lost one of the first choice pairing to injury though.
 


Not Andy Naylor

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Under RDZ we had a very solid core of JPVH, Dunk, Caicedo and Ally Mac, then Gross and Gilmour. The new core hasn't knitted together as well yet, because Wiefer got injured and then so did O'Riley. Baleba has stepped up and so has Ayari, and I have a feeling that it'll settle down as Wiefer and Baleba in front of Dunk and JPVH. That looks a very solid foundation to build everything else on, but it will take time.

A couple of things about this evening - some people have made the excuse that we fielded a team that largely hadn't played together, but Wolves made even more changes (10 to our 8). Our defending as a team was abysmal at times - Wolves' first goal was one of the worst I can remember us conceding. Nobody tracked Doherty, which I think was Minteh's fault, but Moder should have spotted the danger too. And despite the brilliant clearance off the goalline, I don't think Jack Hinshelwood has been quite at it yet. I expected better from him back on the right but maybe the trauma of having to play left back against Bukayo Saka has affected him.

Pluses - Adingra was excellent at times tonight and should start ahead of Minteh against Forest. Baleba is showing immense promise, and injured players such as Pervis and Ferguson are on their way back. When everyone's fit we'll give some unlucky team a five- or six-goal tanking and after that it will all be plain sailing. Probably.
 






Hotchilidog

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Given how shit we were under RDZ second half of last season, I’d say an unbeaten start to the season whilst the new manager is figuring things out without most of the new signings available to him is pretty bloody decent. We are fine and nowhere near as good as we will be once things really click.
 


nickjhs

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let me just say first off it’s been an excellent season results-wise. and obviously there’s the usual caveat about a new manager needing time, same with the new players.

i do think it is just worth mentioning, more out of curiosity than a moan, that to be honest, i really haven’t been that impressed with any of our performances so far. certainly not like we saw when RDZ took over from potter (although again there were a few dodgy performances early on). our buildup routines are mostly appalling, we look as defensively open as we did last season and saw against ipswich the same old issues of not being able to win against park-the-bus teams.

it’s absolutely nothing to worry about really, we got four points of arsenal and utd ffs, but it does leave me wondering if we are flattering to deceive a little?
All teams ride their luck, all teams miss great opportunities. When this doesn't happen you get thrashings like Leicester against Stains. We have a new crop of young players who have never experienced the PL, and the same goes for the manager, we have a few who haven't played for months and months due to injury, and the ones that were here last year have a very fixed style of play to get out of. So sure we have had some luck but we have won 2 and drawn 2 and just beaten Wolves in the EFL Cup. Unlike RDZ, whose style was absolutely prone to being worked out, Hurzeler doesn't seem so transparent. So are we good? Yes we are, are we going to get better? Undoubtedly. Are we going to be in the bottom half this season? NOPE.
 
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DJ NOBO

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Jul 18, 2004
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I said midtable, which would be the non-Europe places.

What’s your predicted final position this seasom?

Charity bet?
“Desperately would want an injury to Baleba and/or JPVH.” 🤨

To answer your question - Yeah, upper midtable is about right.
Which doesn’t sound too sexy, but to put it into context , upper midtable would potentially mean finishing below: ManCity, Liverpool, Arsenal, Chelsea, Man U, Spurs, Newcastle, Villa.
Of course, we aim for higher and with good reason. But a Brighton fan should not see midtable as a failure. Especially in a rebuild season.
 
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sussex_guy2k2

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Jun 6, 2014
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Honestly, I think there’s so many variables that are still up in the air that I think it’s impossible to really tell. We’re a good side, there’s no doubt about that, but I can’t honestly pin point whether we’ll improve on last year yet, as I’ve just not seen enough of the new players. I also think the new manager will need a bedding in period - he’s shown some serious tactical naivety so far, that Prem teams will start to exploit sooner rather than later, if he doesn’t adapt.

It’s exciting though.
 


Berty23

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Jun 26, 2012
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I still think we have the potential to be a match for all but the top 2.
We are still settling in to the FH way and have some fantastic players yet to be integrated in to the squad.
A fully fit Ferdi and March on the right flank and Estupinan (if he recovers his form) and Mitoma/Adingra on the left will light up many a match.
The midfield once settled will be very competitive when you have Wieffer, Baleba, O’Riley, Hinsh and Ayari fighting it out for a spot.
Up top will be equally as competitive for a starting berth what with Welbeck, JP, Georginio and Ferguson all wanting to play.
Havent even mentioned Minteh, Gruda, Enciso etc and the centre half’s pretty much pick themselves… would be a little concerned if we lost one of the first choice pairing to injury though.
Didn’t we match Arsenal away?
 




Littlemo

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Had to stop at gotten, sorry

Why? It’s fairly common word, apparently still mostly in use in Scotland and Ireland which makes sense since I am Scottish. If you are going to be an arsehole about word choice on a football message board, surely there are worse examples?
 


One Teddy Maybank

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Webster is plenty good enough. Igor is truly dreadful.

This.

NSC desperately trying to turn Webster into the new whipping boy, when what is obvious is that he is more than capable to not only provide cover, but push the other two.

Positionally, last night he was excellent, how many times did he intercept Wolves crosses.

As for where we are, not overly impressed quality wise, but early days, lots of room for improvement and results are everything. If we do have any European ambition then we need to beat the the newly promoted teams.

Forest is a big game IMO, in terms of gauging progress.
 
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PILTDOWN MAN

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Why? It’s fairly common word, apparently still mostly in use in Scotland and Ireland which makes sense since I am Scottish. If you are going to be an arsehole about word choice on a football message board, surely there are worse examples?
Not an arsehole. It’s only coming back due to the yoof watching far too much shit American TV.
 




PILTDOWN MAN

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Hiheidi

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the most disappointing thing so far, despite some good results, is that we spent £200m and so far none of them have wowed, or played.

Or you could look at it the other way - because most of the new players haven't really played yet, we've most being fielding a team of players from last season's awful run, but picking up better results.
 


Han Solo

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May 25, 2024
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This.

NSC desperately trying to turn Webster into the new whipping boy, when what is obvious is that he is more than capable to not only provide cover, but push the other two.

Positionally, last night he was excellent, how many Tim’s did he intercept Wolves crosses.

As for where we are, not overly impressed quality wise, but early days, lots of room for improvement and results are everything. If we do have any European ambition then we need to beat the the newly promoted teams.

Forest is a big game IMO, in terms of gauging progress.
In my five years here, no one has got the amount of shit Webster has got. Its not "new". Sometimes NSC decides that someone else is the single cause of the team not winning 38 out of 38 league games etc. but in times of doubt, people return to the comfortable safety of Webster bashing.

Look at this abomination of a thread as an example: https://nortr3nixy.nimpr.uk/threads/this-webster-experiment-ends-jan-1st.376878/

At that point, his crime against humanity was that he wasn't Shane Duffy. These days his crime against humanity is that he isn't some 18-year-old £53m signing from Turkmenistan.
 


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