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Baldseagull

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borat said:
Labour complicit in war crimes?

www.bbc.co.uk

British Foreign Office diplomat Mark Smith resigns over Israel arms sales

The official resigned over arms sales to Israel, saying the UK government "may be complicit in war crimes".
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They will be if they ignore any illegality found in the review they say is currently in process.
The question for me is will the review be completed before there is an end to the fighting, and will they still implement a ban if it finds Israel to not be compliant but the fighting is over?

Politically a very difficult situation, Israel is almost certainly commiting war crimes, but is also very powerful in lobbying Western Governments, and influencing the Jewish opinion in Western countries.
I don't want to say Israel is paranoid, because it faces real threats, but because of that, it is quick to react to any criticism, won't accept any criticism, and goes on the offensive to tackle criticism.
 






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dsr-burnley

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Baldseagull said:
They will be if they ignore any illegality found in the review they say is currently in process.
The question for me is will the review be completed before there is an end to the fighting, and will they still implement a ban if it finds Israel to not be compliant but the fighting is over?

Politically a very difficult situation, Israel is almost certainly commiting war crimes, but is also very powerful in lobbying Western Governments, and influencing the Jewish opinion in Western countries.
I don't want to say Israel is paranoid, because it faces real threats, but because of that, it is quick to react to any criticism, won't accept any criticism, and goes on the offensive to tackle criticism.
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Hamas is absolutely certainly committing war crimes, and yet we still supply arms to their paymasters in Qatar. Presumably stopping sales to Qatar will be next.
 




Zeberdi

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dsr-burnley said:
Hamas is absolutely certainly committing war crimes, and yet we still supply arms to their paymasters in Qatar. Presumably stopping sales to Qatar will be next.
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Very true.

Perhaps the UK Government should also introduce regulations to prevent State owned Qatar investment consortiums from buying into the English Premier League. while they are at it. They have made it clear in the past that they have interests in the EPL with at least three Clubs; Manchester United, Liverpool and Tottenham Hotspur all coming into their spotting scopes in recent years.

FIFA allowing Qatar World Cup sportswashing which has bolstered tourism in the Country; the acquisition of PSG and Qatar’s investment portfolio in London real estate have all propped up this tiny Country and it’s ability to provide financial backing for Hamas as has our import of oil.

Last year, the UK imported £6.9bn of fossil fuels from Qatar. As soon as we wean ourselves off fossil fuels the better imo -

That said, it is not in our interest for our political allies in the ME ( ie the Gulf States) to be weak against Iran or the Russian sphere of influence in the ME.

It’s a conundrum.
 








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wellquickwoody

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borat said:
One of the chief launderers of misinformation and weaponisation of antisemitism seems to be falling apart

www.theguardian.com

Columnists quit Jewish Chronicle over Gaza stories based on ‘fabrications’

David Baddiel and Jonathan Freedland among those to resign over articles by former IDF soldier Elon Perry
www.theguardian.com www.theguardian.com
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Interesting. Baddiel and colleagues earn a little bit of respect back from me, not top of their worry list I am sure. But good to see them able to think for themselves rather than just following the normal route of complete and utter solidarity.
 


Bozza

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This is a remarkable story, isn't it?

The planning and sophistication needed to infiltrate a supply chain and implant thousands of pagers, that remain completely operational, with high-grade explosives, such that they can be made to all go BANG! at some point in the future.

That's quite something.

www.bbc.co.uk

Israel says it killed senior Hezbollah figures in strike on Beirut

Lebanon's health ministry says 14 people were killed and dozens injured in the strike, as cross-border exchanges escalate.
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fly high

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Real shame about the 10 year old girl but the others, brilliant.
 










The Clamp

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Bozza said:
This is a remarkable story, isn't it?

The planning and sophistication needed to infiltrate a supply chain and implant thousands of pagers, that remain completely operational, with high-grade explosives, such that they can be made to all go BANG! at some point in the future.

That's quite something.

www.bbc.co.uk

Israel says it killed senior Hezbollah figures in strike on Beirut

Lebanon's health ministry says 14 people were killed and dozens injured in the strike, as cross-border exchanges escalate.
www.bbc.co.uk
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I couldn’t understand it at first.

Extraordinary.
 




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