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[Music] Johnny Marr claims The Smiths trademark?!













Si Gull

Way Down South
Mar 18, 2008
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On top of the world
Nothing can match the original line up. Brighton Poly 1984 :love:.
Agreed. Saw them at Reading Uni in Feb 84. Audience were strangely hostile (spitting, throwing water, verbals). Marr played much of the gig facing away from the audience, and Morrissey walked off before the encore finished. Weird evening.
 




Weststander

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Aug 25, 2011
69,129
Withdean area
Agreed. Saw them at Reading Uni in Feb 84. Audience were strangely hostile (spitting, throwing water, verbals). Marr played much of the gig facing away from the audience, and Morrissey walked off before the encore finished. Weird evening.

I missed all that and we were at the front at Brighton Poly. An adoring audience.

In fact at dozens of 80’s gigs we never saw any trouble or spitting. I just missed out on the peak punk thing as too young. A relative of Mrs.W worked at the Top Rank for decades, he could remember all the violent gigs.
 


studio150

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Jul 30, 2011
30,207
On the Border
Easily overcome, Morrissey tours as Morrissey's Smiths, while Johnny Marr tours as The Smiths.

I'm sure some venues will advertise Morrissey's Smiths dates as The Smiths, causing confusing and leading to further litigation.

Alternatively they could follow the Oasis route and reform as The Smiths for a few stadium appearances to boost their pension pot.
 








nevergoagain

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Jul 28, 2005
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nowhere near Burgess Hill
Astley at glasto was awesome as a one off but I'm not sure I could stand to hear a full set without Mozza on vocals.
 
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DJ NOBO

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Jul 18, 2004
6,804
Wiltshire
If they can resist the cash, their legacy will thank them for not reforming.
And what a legacy. No duffers in their entire back catalogue.
 




Harry Wilson's tackle

Harry Wilson's Tackle
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Oct 8, 2003
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Faversham
Nothing can match the original line up. Brighton Poly 1984 :love:.
I would pay good money to see Johnny Marr with Rick Astley. The latter's festival set was brilliant.
 


Harry Wilson's tackle

Harry Wilson's Tackle
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Oct 8, 2003
55,876
Faversham
I missed all that and we were at the front at Brighton Poly. An adoring audience.

In fact at dozens of 80’s gigs we never saw any trouble or spitting. I just missed out on the peak punk thing as too young. A relative of Mrs.W worked at the Top Rank for decades, he could remember all the violent gigs.
I started to pick my gigs carefully after around 79 (after the nonsense at the Specials, Madness etc.). Then in 82 I moved to Vancouver where there was never any trouble at gigs (Big Country, Chris and Cosey, Legendary pink dots). Didn't see any live music in the UK again till around 92 and have largely stayed well away from mainstream ever since. And Also The Trees (numerous times), Tuxedomoon, VNVNation (loads of times), Assemblage 23 (loads), De/Vision, Lebananon Hanover, and more recently SRSQ, Boy Harsher, Drab Majesty . . . . absolutely no chance of wanktrumpeteers.

The only irksome recent-ish gig was Godspeed!YBE at Brixton 10 years ago, which was very crowded, and a group of trustafarians arrived late and stood right in front of us, in loud conversation, triggering a 'strong' reaction from five foot three Mrs T, who provided a brief but succinct elaboration of her opinion. They moved. But it dampened the mood.
 


Weststander

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Aug 25, 2011
69,129
Withdean area
I started to pick my gigs carefully after around 79 (after the nonsense at the Specials, Madness etc.). Then in 82 I moved to Vancouver where there was never any trouble at gigs (Big Country, Chris and Cosey, Legendary pink dots). Didn't see any live music in the UK again till around 92 and have largely stayed well away from mainstream ever since. And Also The Trees (numerous times), Tuxedomoon, VNVNation (loads of times), Assemblage 23 (loads), De/Vision, Lebananon Hanover, and more recently SRSQ, Boy Harsher, Drab Majesty . . . . absolutely no chance of wanktrumpeteers.

The only irksome recent-ish gig was Godspeed!YBE at Brixton 10 years ago, which was very crowded, and a group of trustafarians arrived late and stood right in front of us, in loud conversation, triggering a 'strong' reaction from five foot three Mrs T, who provided a brief but succinct elaboration of her opinion. They moved. But it dampened the mood.

What did you think Big Country? We saw their Crossing gig at the Top Rank in 83. Great night.
 




GJN1

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Nov 4, 2014
1,539
Brighton
Easily overcome, Morrissey tours as Morrissey's Smiths, while Johnny Marr tours as The Smiths.

I'm sure some venues will advertise Morrissey's Smiths dates as The Smiths, causing confusing and leading to further litigation.

Alternatively they could follow the Oasis route and reform as The Smiths for a few stadium appearances to boost their pension pot.
It'll be like UB40. Or Bucks Fizz.
 


GJN1

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Nov 4, 2014
1,539
Brighton
I suspect rather than roping in Olly Murs on lead vocals and touring as The Smiths, it's a preventative measure designed to stop Morrissey calling Craig Gannon, Vini Reilly (is he still alive?), Stephen Street, and Andrew Paresi and going out on the road using the name.
 




Arthur

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Jul 8, 2003
8,756
Buxted Harbour
Johnny Marr is a great musician and has made some great records but he is a narcissistic prick.

Saw him last year and he told the venue to shut the bar during his performance. If it had been a seated gig I could possibly understand it but it wasn't. Sadly the venue didn't tell him to f*** off so it was a pretty much dry gig.
 




aolstudios

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Nov 30, 2011
5,257
brighton
I suspect rather than roping in Olly Murs on lead vocals and touring as The Smiths, it's a preventative measure designed to stop Morrissey calling Craig Gannon, Vini Reilly (is he still alive?), Stephen Street, and Andrew Paresi and going out on the road using the name.
Exactly this ^
 


Insel affe

HellBilly
Feb 23, 2009
24,304
Brighton factually.....
Johnny Marr is a great musician and has made some great records but he is a narcissistic prick.

Saw him last year and he told the venue to shut the bar during his performance. If it had been a seated gig I could possibly understand it but it wasn't. Sadly the venue didn't tell him to f*** off so it was a pretty much dry gig.
He is right up himself, some very good guitar, but not spectacular and a good session musician can easily replicate.
He hates to acknowledge Morrissey was the driving force and face of the smiths.
 


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