That’s enough @Westander now. Every-time I try and defend what I say, you take the argument even further off topic.
I support Labour but not with a blinded obsession and I don’t support the withdrawal of the fuel payments - you are tilting your lance at the wrong person here.
I wasn’t even going to get involved in this discussion at all, especially with the NSC centre right! - on this or the other thread (and heartedly regret getting dragged further and further in to it )I was going to have the night off of politics, but I had to make the correction before the statement became NSC lore.
Anyway, have a good rest of the evening .
Thank you. As a non political soul, I now see what you mean.Sorry been getting constant push back every time I post because apparently my political credentials of being a Labour Party activist puts me in the firing line for those very angry about this and apparently I have to justify everything I say so I will make this my last post (after responding to @Weststander below) because its getting boring.
It wasn’t meant as anything extreme - In really basic terms - Every government comes in with their own ideology - the left, traditionally at least, big government, social contract, prioritised welfare and healthcare provision, the role of government to look after the vulnerable and weak and keep public services and utilities in the public sector, paid with by higher taxation. The right, traditionally, low taxation, laissez faire economy, private/free enterprise, helping people help themselves, lower taxation, competition in the market place. In a capitalist society, there will be greater divisions between the rich and poor under a right wing government than under a left. The inherent forces of capitalism depend on that division to flourish.
Each consecutive government redistributes wealth according to its particular ideology which should, in this instance, under a left wing government, make the fuel companies give back some of the profits they have made to reduce fuel bills and close the tax gap - that’s what I meant by the bigger picture.
I wasn’t even going to get involved in this discussion at all, especially with the NSC centre right! - on this or the other thread (and heartedly regret getting dragged further and further in to it )
ps. I will leave people with this about Liz Truss’s role in creating the economic crisis that led to the pension debacle
Truss' mini-budget helped knock £425bn off pension funds' assets
Pension funds were hit hard after the government announced tens of millions in unfunded tax cuts, which spooked the bond market.www.cityam.com
Don’t start quoting right wing papers at me.Their headline drew people in, then the body of text reveals the true time frame and facts. Here’s the meat on the bone.
https://www.telegraph.co.uk/business/2023/10/04/global-bond-markets-turmoil-households/
Don’t start quoting right wing papers at me.
As I said, lets end the discussion because this must be really boring for everyone else reading this thread now. It’s gine way off topic.
Ditto for me and it’s normally very quick if you use the on line service.I overpaid a few times, always got repayments from HMRC within a few days once the calculation had been agreed
Was this a paper submission? How long ago are we talking? I always did mine electronically online. If you had an accountant submit it for you this could maybe point to additional complexities. Remember SA is only required to be completed for UK tax domiciles who have income outside of the normal PAYE environment. If there were international components on the return that can slow things down (depends on which country).It wasn’t anything complex or contentious. My self assessment was incorrect to the tune of £745. My accountant re-submitted my self-assessment and we waited. I called after a while, they claimed they hadn’t received it, my accountant had a code or something he stated as evidence of the re-submission, they said they’d look for it, I kept calling, I kept explaining to a different person every time and kept being told they’d investigate and I’d get a call-back etc etc. Eventually we were asked to re-submit again and after another few months I got the money back plus 50 extra for the inconvenience. Whole thing took 18 months.
It was a SA submitted electronically. I have rental income I declare in the UK but this is all, no other components and no international component.Was this a paper submission? How long ago are we talking? I always did mine electronically online. If you had an accountant submit it for you this could maybe point to additional complexities. Remember SA is only required to be completed for UK tax domiciles who have income outside of the normal PAYE environment. If there were international components on the return that can slow things down (depends on which country).
How near 31-Jan deadline day was it submitted? HMRC called every January "peak-processing" and before electronic SA submissions were possible, extra staff were redeployed to deal with the SA paper submission deluge and an IT change freeze was always implemented every January too
Now, most SA returns are submitted electronicallt online and can be processed way faster.
Sounds like you just had a bad experience?
Are you still doing SAs now? If yes, paper or electronically?
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/cvg3g8wpwwqoI have got three children, 2 currently at Uni one just graduated, i didn’t contribute anything to them going, they did all from the grant Also the high interest rate on the loan I’ve just checked and its not that high
One of the main reasons I chose not to study in the UK. I mean, it's not even a debt anymore it's a tax.
Really ….i must have blinked as that never happened to me or my parents…perhaps it’s best not to lump everyone in the same bracketThe over 60s have had their 'winter fuel payment' by being fortunate enough to grow up through an unprecendented house price inflation era.
£10k salary and a 20k house now worth £500k?
Winter fuel payment my 'arris
Indeed, but a tax you only pay when you earn enough to do so - thresholds vary depending on which SL plan you're on, £25k-ish.One of the main reasons I chose not to study in the UK. I mean, it's not even a debt anymore it's a tax.
Majority of people will never pay this off.
Many over 60s still rent, and your figures for home owners are way out, but apart from that,The over 60s have had their 'winter fuel payment' by being fortunate enough to grow up through an unprecendented house price inflation era.
£10k salary and a 20k house now worth £500k?
Winter fuel payment my 'arris
Which just shows that University degrees aren't necessarily the passport to good jobs that the commercial organisations - sorry, universities - trying to sell the idea of getting a degree to our kids want them to think it is!One of the main reasons I chose not to study in the UK. I mean, it's not even a debt anymore it's a tax.
Majority of people will never pay this off.