[Albion] Hürzeler's pre-Ipswich presser

Stato said:

The way FH, when asked about Weiffer, said that Kadioglu gives us another option there, suggests to me that there is a possibility that we might see a centre midfielder, Jack Hinshelwood starting at left back and a left back, Ferdi Kadioglu, starting in centre midfield. It's like 1970s Holland* around here lately.

* - I know, but in the 1970s nobody called them the Netherlands.

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Machiavelli said:

I'd rather not compare the two atm, but would add about Minteh that his pressing is off-the-scale, and has enabled us to win the ball back high up the pitch several times, and I don't see that changing.

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Cowfold Seagull said:

Indeed, been a while since we had such a strong bench.

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Farehamseagull said:

Game of opinions and all that, I'm the opposite. I think Minteh is brilliant and not quite appreciated enough on here YET. I think he's got more goals and assists in him than Adingra now and he starts ahead of him every single time for me. Adingra couldn't do what Minteh did to get our first goal against Everton and our goal against Arsenal, Minteh is quicker and stronger, you can see defenders are shit scared of him as well as the fact he helps out defensively. Adingra can be quite lightweight at times.

I like Adingra and he's a useful option from the bench but that's where he's best for me. Plus, I prefer him in his favoured position on the left so I think Fabian has got it just right by starting Mitoma and then bringing Adingra on for him late on against tired defences.

Good options!

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Withdean South Stand said:

Verbruggen
Kadioglu Van Hecke Dunk Estupinan
Hinshelwood Baleba
Minteh Joao Pedro Mitoma
Welbeck

Another round of not picking Steele and injury has taken care of Milner! I think that Evan Ferguson will become first choice striker, but for now I think this is the strongest team available. Wieffer and O'Reilly would probably be the midfield pair if everyone was fit and maybe Gruda instead of Minteh but otherwise, this is wonderful.

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Marshy said:

Can see Rutter starting for Pedro depending on his time of arrival.

Same for Mitoma and whoever else was away on international duty.

Would not be suprised with a few changes.

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martin tyler said:

Personally I think it will just be a slower integration. He was looking likely to be in the German euro squad before injury. If the plan was he wasn’t going to get minutes he would have gone out on loan to develop. Even with this short term injury he would have been snapped up by a decent club for the season.

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aolstudios said:

Kadioglu is a left back, Pervis is rusty as f***.
Why would you do this when we have a real right back?

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Bob! said:

Ferdi is a right back who has been playing at left back recently.

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SeagullsoverLondon said:

As he is Cup tied for Wednesday, it might make sense to start him on Saturday. But perhaps instead of Minteh?

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Bob! said:

Ferdi is a right back who has been playing at left back recently.

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Withdean South Stand said:

I don't agree lads, I think he is a CM longer term but his understanding of the game is fantastic and well ahead of his years. I'm all for him getting gametime wherever he can, and we saw Pascal Gross start games at full back. I think he's a temporary measure there, because he's going to have a career where he's scoring goals and getting assists and really impacting games. I think that's what he's all about, but for now he's finding his way in the game and getting him on the pitch is the key.

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Bob! said:

Ferdi is a right back who has been playing at left back recently.

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Zeberdi said:

For now, Hinshelwood is the strongest option in RFB.

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aolstudios said:

Disagree. He did an excellent job when needed last season but at the heights we hope to reach this term I think we need 'real' full backs. I think at some point Jack would be found out, as Tariq was.

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Change at Barnham said:

Fabian Hürzeler is a very impressive speaker, his replies to questions come across as very measured and respectful.
If it turns out that he can also create a successful winning team we will have a young future star in our ranks.

p.s. It's disappointing that whoever the rookie is that created this thread couldn't spell his family name correctly.
Or am I being whooshed and it's another case of "Were Loose" ?

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Zeberdi said:

I think Tariq was found out because his speed dropped off after injury imo and his decision-making is questionable at times.

Hinshelwood is not only a better all round player than Lamptey but has a Gross-like football intelligence. Although Hinsh was playing RB last season, he still played high at times and often into the oppo’s half - under RDZ Hinsh was used more like an FB - (when Igor was standing in for Pervis) RDZ opting to build from a 3-1 or a 3-2 (depending on the opposition), bringing the left back into the back 3 and pushing Hinshelwood up, either to hold width on the right or join the midfield.

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We know Hinsh is a versatile player - ok, he may not be the fastest player in the pack, nor a great carrier of the ball but has enough acceleration to chase down players and cover long distances at a decent speed. Like the some of the best fullbacks, his shorter legs and low centre of gravity has meant he adapted well to that position last season imo and he seldom loses possession because what he loses in speed he makes up with manoeuvrability. With Minteh dropping deeper into MF, I can see Hinsh doing very well in a FB/lateral MF position, even in the final third where his ability to find pockets of space off the ball could be really helpful in breaking down low blocks.

I think he’s still too lightweight and needs to bulk out and still has the condition/perseverance of a 19 yr old as well as needing more experience but we absolutely should start him somewhere on the pitch imo.

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SeagullsoverLondon said:

As he is Cup tied for Wednesday, it might make sense to start him on Saturday. But perhaps instead of Minteh?

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pigmanovich said:

Worth noting he played at RB on his debut for the England U21s. Perhaps it’s time we start thinking of Jack as primarily a fullback?

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