Is it PotG?
Thrifty non-licker
When you say 'fix', that implies some clue and direction.
Streeting is already out on bended knee apologising to constituents
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Streeting is already out on bended knee apologising to constituents
rogersix
Well-known member
- Jan 18, 2014
- 8,201
she does come across as being very upset that the tories were booted out,, which is nice
rogersix
Well-known member
- Jan 18, 2014
- 8,201
try to be patient, and realistic, you'll only upset yourself again
Mustafa II
Well-known member
Voted Labour. Have always voted Labour. Used to be a member.
But this Labour government is TERRIFYING me. I wish I knew what I know now during the election.
It seems like they're going to tax the middle classes until there's nothing left but bones.
We'll see what they come out with in the October budget, but if the speculation is true - it's going to be f***ing bleak.
But this Labour government is TERRIFYING me. I wish I knew what I know now during the election.
It seems like they're going to tax the middle classes until there's nothing left but bones.
We'll see what they come out with in the October budget, but if the speculation is true - it's going to be f***ing bleak.
pocketseagull
Well-known member
- Dec 29, 2014
- 1,360
He said it was needed but wasn't happy about it and apologised to those affected. Do you think MPs should be saying they're delighted to be cutting WFA?
Is it PotG?
Thrifty non-licker
Doesn't matter how you dress it, an abomination is an abomination.
https://www.theguardian.com/politic...k-unpopular-plan-to-cut-winter-fuel-allowance
I do not understand why Reeves did not keep WFA but tax it. That way the well off pensioners would pay back 40% but the least well off would keep it all.
pocketseagull
Well-known member
- Dec 29, 2014
- 1,360
I don't agree with the cut but your characterisation of what Streeting had said was nonsense as usual.
rogersix
Well-known member
- Jan 18, 2014
- 8,201
in contrast to your mob? have you got nothing better, like the nat west share price or something. you are already desperate, with only five years to go, minimum, christ
Is it PotG?
Thrifty non-licker
Great, thanks for that.
KZNSeagull
Well-known member
All this WFA controversy says to me is that this country desperately needs a proper means testing system.
pocketseagull
Well-known member
- Dec 29, 2014
- 1,360
TBF it is galling to see someone who never criticised the last lot and supported polices that got us in this mess popping up to have a go at any opportunity. Maupay's message on humility should be a lesson.
rogersix
Well-known member
- Jan 18, 2014
- 8,201
in all seriousness, what response do you expect your dribble to provoke?
With the greatest respect, if you are interested in the wealthy (middle class) keeping their stash and receiving winter fuel payments they don’t need, not being taxed effectively on captial gains they have either inherited or invested in after paying accountants thousands to avoid paying tax elsewhere or in favour of people receiving the sort of inheritance that inhibits and profoundly stunts social and financial mobility, perhaps you should never have joined Labour or Voted Labour?
The lurch to the right hits a lot of us as we age and buy into the Tory values that life is all about looking after No.1 and that money is the most important thing in life. Have you turned blue but are in denial?
Mustafa II
Well-known member
The wealthy is NOT the middle class. Far from it. The middle classes are ALREADY struggling - with mortgages, student loans, child care, energy prices, and so on.
The wealthy don't need to worry about ANY of this, as their wealth exceeds any of these concerns. The truly wealthy is what a true Labour government should be targeting- but he's not - he's aiming at middle class families, young professionals and so many other people that keep our society and economy functioning.
It's terrifying. The bloke is a maniac.
pocketseagull
Well-known member
- Dec 29, 2014
- 1,360
Agree with the first part, what are you referring to with the second?
Bob!
Coffee Buyer
- Jul 5, 2003
- 11,623
Where are you getting this nonsense from?
Weststander
Well-known member
Isn’t it more complicated than that.
What about those with income between £12,571 to £50,270, basic tax payers?
If “the less well off” get to keep it all, that would allow pensioner couples with annual income up to £100,540 to keep the WFA.
Don't worry, the Starmer ideas void is about to be filled.
rogersix
Well-known member
- Jan 18, 2014
- 8,201
not panicking yet, as i'm english, and trying to be brave