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[Football] Should we scrap the offside rule?



jonny.rainbow

jonny.rainbow

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There are plenty of alternatives used on other invasion games that could be tried instead of the current offside law (which I still think is fine).

Amend it so it only states attacking players must be behind the ball at all times in a similar way to rugby.

Use a ‘3 (seconds) in the key’ rule like in basketball to prevent goalhanging.

Revert to traditional 1-11 numbering and limit attacking players permitted in the box to the number 9 and 10.
 




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Albion my Albion

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jonny.rainbow said:
Use a ‘3 (seconds) in the key’ rule like in basketball to prevent goalhanging.
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It's almost a totally forgotten rule in the NBA and college basketball. If the referees keep calling the 3 second lane violations it really becomes a dull game.
 


schmunk

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jonny.rainbow said:
But crucially, with a ‘daylight’ change, you are giving the advantage to the attacking team leading to more goal scoring opportunities and hopefully more exciting matches.
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Sure, but it doesn't change the way it would be measured, and it wouldn't solve the complaints about "marginal" offsides.
 


jonny.rainbow

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Albion my Albion said:
It's almost a totally forgotten rule in the NBA and college basketball. If the referees keep calling the 3 second lane violations it really becomes a dull game.
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Really? Pretty sure one of the referees is specifically tasked with calling 3 second violations.

I’ve definitely seen it called in NBA games before.
 




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The rule should favour the attacking team more I think e.g. if any part/feet of the attacker is in line with a defender it's onside etc.
 


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tronnogull

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I'm not saying to scrap it but today's offside rules lead to a game within a game which is not about footballing skills. The idea behind offside is to prevent goalhanging which is fair enough. But nowdays, defenders train to catch forwards marginally offside and forwards train to ' break the offside trap'. I'd be much more in favour of an offside regime which prevented obvious goal hanging but which otherwise didn't have any impact on the game.
 








Albion my Albion

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5Ways Gull said:
Keep it but recalibrate so the whole player has to be in front.
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And VAR will be measuring whether the whole player is totally in front of the last defender or not. The same issue exists.
 


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schmunk said:
Sure, but it doesn't change the way it would be measured, and it wouldn't solve the complaints about "marginal" offsides.
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You’ll never stop complaints. Even if you resolved every rule in the game to be perfect, people would complain about marginal calls somehow.

We can’t work on the basis of planning rules so that people don’t find things to complain about, they need to be rules that make the game fair, competitive and equal.

Current offside is far too punitive to the offence. The idea you rule out a goal because the guy on the wing had a foot in front when he crossed it in is ridiculous, mainly because being ahead of anything whilst out on the wing or by the touch line is not advantageous at all. That’s the issue, it’s made perfectly good play penalised for nothing really.

The whole “offside by a toe” is bad as well, because it’s not reasonable to expect players to measure or see that - offside ought to be something a player can control.

I like the idea of having to have air between the player. If a defender is in touching distance of an attacker, he can challenge for the ball. This would prevent goal hanging but get rid of some of the more awful disallowed goal decisions. Everyone will of course still moan.
 
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BN41Albion said:
You've clearly never watched/played amateur/non-league football in Latin countries! 😮
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No, true, I haven't. The nearest I came to it was watching French schoolboys play. It was so laid-back when I was used to the screaming, spittle-flecked English parents who watched my son's games. Kinda assumed that was more the norm. (Wrongly obviously).
 


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