The studs up to tap Enciso's ankle was ENTIRELY the fault of the referee - for not issuing any card for the O'Riley challenge. Williams was always going to keep flying in, until such time as he had a card to his name.
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Hometownglory
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He was a new player yesterdayRegardless of how long he’s out for, when he’s back it… will be like having a new player.
That was the joke. smhHe was a new player yesterday
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Quite a few Celtic fans on X up in arms about his injury.
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What I don't get is how the officials don't see the severity this challenge.
Now, I preface this by saying I missed it. From where I was in WSL a player was in the way of my view of it, and clearly from time to time that will happen to a ref, fair enough.
But what about the 2 linemen? The 4th official is standing right there. All 4 of them can't be unsighted? Why don't the other officials offer any help? In rugby, the refs are mic'd to each other as they are in football, but they still go to each other to confer on key issues.
Here the game had stopped, they could have conferred about how they saw the challenge. To me it just seems there is no culture in football officiating to working as a team. If all are paying attention, surely one of them help the ref with what he misses. You shouldn't even need VAR
Now, I preface this by saying I missed it. From where I was in WSL a player was in the way of my view of it, and clearly from time to time that will happen to a ref, fair enough.
But what about the 2 linemen? The 4th official is standing right there. All 4 of them can't be unsighted? Why don't the other officials offer any help? In rugby, the refs are mic'd to each other as they are in football, but they still go to each other to confer on key issues.
Here the game had stopped, they could have conferred about how they saw the challenge. To me it just seems there is no culture in football officiating to working as a team. If all are paying attention, surely one of them help the ref with what he misses. You shouldn't even need VAR
Thank Christ someone finally pointed this out. I was beginning to think I was the only person in the ground who noticed he was playing at '10' with Enciso leading the line. When we made the sub Enciso dropped into 10.
I think he probably would have run onto the pitch screaming in Italian, shot the ref and got the Mafia to give Williams' kids to Mason Greenwood.
At least, if you read NSC that's what he would have done.
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Why hasn't the referee been suspended by now ?
maltaseagull
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Even more so in Rugby, very often the referee will listen to an assistant´s view and ASK him what action he advises. In football the assistant referees decide on throw ins and if the ball is correctly placed for a corner .....
oh and sometimes an offside even if 30 seconds later!
Not used correctly.
Mancgull
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The tackle wasn’t that high as if it had been it would have broken his leg, I expect. It was however very late ( perhaps excusable for a player not used to the speed of a Premier League player) and most significantly, with excessive force which made it seem a deliberate attempt to injure the player.
How the ref didn’t judge it as a yellow or red card, I really don’t know.
How the ref didn’t judge it as a yellow or red card, I really don’t know.
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kevo
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This used to happen, didn't it? I remember linesmen frantically waving their flags to draw the ref's attention to something. Or the ref walking over to the linesman to ask if he had a clear view of an incident. Seems to occur very rarely these days - when it obviously needs to happen more often.
Some Danish fella with a lot of followers on twitter was saying that last night's American ref, Alex Chilowicz, has been refereeing in England for more than a year after moving from the MLS and has only previously reffed two games at Championship level. Obviously inexperienced, so it could be forgiven if he was worried about producing a red card after only six minutes. But not to even book Williams was bizarre.
You could say that is where the 4th officials and linesmen should have stepped in, but the ref actually had a clear view so maybe that's what stopped them? Just pure incompetence on his part. No doubt he'll be a Premier League regular in a few seasons.
On another note, why no VAR? FA Cup ties at Premier League grounds have VAR but the same rule obviously doesn't apply to the EFL Cup. Another farcical, random rule.
English refs have a completely different attitude to cards than refs from other nations, which is why the card average in PL is lower than in other leagues. In other leagues, the card is part of the game, in England it is something that is preferably avoided, something you only want to hand out if someone has been a very naughty boy.
I prefer the non-English version where cards are handed out more generously and also accepted more easily by players. The concept of a card is a bit too overdramatised in England, imho there's nothing wrong in seeing four, five or six per game like in most leagues.
No need to wave flags etc they are mic'd up.
kevo
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'Metaphorically' wave flags, I guess!