Coldeanseagull
Opinionated
I thought this thread was to put how you personally rated the players, not criticise how everyone else rated it? 
Silly me, I forgot where I was
Silly me, I forgot where I was
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[Albion] Players ratings Everton - Brighton
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Ok but it wasn't a bad result, we won 3-0 and only allowed to opponents two good chances.
It was far from a perfect game but if people would give 2s or 3s to multiple players, its because of their own bizarre and insane expectations, not because of the players.
Nobby Cybergoat
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- Jul 19, 2021
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Clearly Milner, looked up at completely the wrong time
METALMICKY
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Who needs flair when you've got horny!Simon Adingra - 7
Very adventerous and horny, with mixed results, but overall a nice display.
What more could you ask of a player
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- #46
Indeed.
And everyone was fine. The performance looked wonky because defenders struggled to find midfielders and midfielders struggled to find attackers. The connection between the team parts was poor - but not any individuals fault.
American Seagle
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- Jun 14, 2022
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Odd comment given Wieffer's successful pass completion was 90% and Mitoma and Minteh's were 79% and 69% respectively.
American Seagle
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You say that but he stopped them getting in decent chances. Just one shot from memory. The rest he defended well enough for the cross or shot to be poor.
After all, stats are everything
Not really, needs context. Mitoma mis-placing a pass into the Everton box is less likely to be an issue than Wieffer mis-placing one on the edge of our own box leading to a chance for them.
Stats are more reliable than an eye witness account though. Spectators will remember Wieffer miscontrolling on the edge of the box and a pass that went astray and this will tarnish their view of his overall performance.
Obviously, in his position, Wieffer needs to cut out those errors, which I'm sure he will. It must be remembered that not only was it his Premier League debut but also that he didn't get much of a preseason due to injury.
NB. I would hope Wieffer's pass completion is always way above M&M's as the latter pair need to take more risks whereas the former needs to look after the ball.
Where did you get the individual player match stats btw?
surlyseagull
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- Aug 23, 2008
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Yes agree
Regardless of detailed performance,
we just won away from home in the managers first game, first game of the season, scored 3, kept a clean sheet
yes it could have been very different, but it wasn't.
has to be a 9 minimum.
we just won away from home in the managers first game, first game of the season, scored 3, kept a clean sheet
yes it could have been very different, but it wasn't.
has to be a 9 minimum.
Iggle Piggle
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Here's what Joachim Low said about Toni Kroos. I appreciate he's one of the best in the world but our possession based style demands something similar in the position :
"You can pass him the ball at any time and he'll find a way to deal with it, even if he's under pressure. He has great vision and a sense of where he is on the pitch.”
Wieffer, unfortunately, didn't give those vibes at least for the first 20 minutes and his passing was way off. You can't really compare pass completion to wingers who will always have lower completion rates due to the nature of the role.
To give you a better comparison Billy Gilmour had a 100% pass completion rate against Marseille where we won the Europa group. That would never happen for a winger.
As I've said on numerous threads, a lot of work to do particularly in CM between now and Man Utd and Arsenal. They won't be so profligate if we make it too easy for them. Equally, Wieffer wont be the last player to have a league debut that wasn't world beating but turns out to a decent signing. There was enough there to suggest he will come good.
Exactly, plus Weiffer is going to be knocking a large number of short easy passes, whereas the wingers are often crossing or playing through balls,
American Seagle
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I was just using the same context as the op of my quote. They say Wiefer's bad passing shouldn't give him the same score as Mitoma and Minteh.
So you definitely missed the point then.