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[Football] Sheffield Wednesday to kick out fans from stadium wearing fake shirts







Wozza

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Commander

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I love to hear about peoples individual principles such as they won’t buy a fake because of what it funds and/or won’t buy a genuine one due to the exploitation of low paid workers etc.

I was very principled once, however we are now in a world where basically every time we spend a quid it can be traced somewhere down the line to something/someone unsavoury be it far east criminal gangs, the Tory party, The Israeli government or complete bell ends like Elon Musk.

Paul Heaton, very much always on the ball for me once sung “Apathy is happy that it won without a fight” sadly I don’t seem to have any fight anymore.
Has anybody yet shown that the people making the fake shirts are working in worse conditions than the ones making the real shirts?
 




Springal

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Wouldn't be at all surprised if they came from the same sweatshop. Must be a thriving secondary market for those shirts that don't pass official sweatshop quality control I'd have thought
The England ones weren’t - material was slightly different
 












Tom Hark Preston Park

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If it is in the terms and conditions of entry then it is legal, you agree to the terms and if you don’t you aren’t allowed in.
This. In the end the stadium is private property, just like the Amex is. Their property, their rules (within the confines of the law of the land)
 


TWOCHOICEStom

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Wouldn't be at all surprised if they came from the same sweatshop. Must be a thriving secondary market for those shirts that don't pass official sweatshop quality control I'd have thought

I've heard a lot of "they're made in the same factory" comments. But without being a sweatshop expert, I'd very much doubt it.

Nike and others have had to really improve working conditions in their factories in recent times. Makes more sense to me that the fakes would be made using similar techniques with worse materials/quality control in the million and one other factories in Asia rather than the relative few that supply Nike/Adidas etc.
 


HeaviestTed

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can they change terms and conditions after people have bought their season tickets ??
If it is a material change to the terms and conditions then I’d imagine you can get a refund. It depends on whether there are refund policies and if the consumer rights act can help.
 




dejavuatbtn

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In one line they talk about displaying and the other wearing. So this means that even if you are not displaying it you can still be chucked out for wearing it. However, if you get to the turnstile and take it off and stuff it in your pocket, they can’t stop you going in. Perhaps they will have mass strip offs at home games. All very bizarre and pointless, just like Wednesday will be for most of the season.
 


Tom Hark Preston Park

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I've heard a lot of "they're made in the same factory" comments. But without being a sweatshop expert, I'd very much doubt it.

Nike and others have had to really improve working conditions in their factories in recent times. Makes more sense to me that the fakes would be made using similar techniques with worse materials/quality control in the million and one other factories in Asia rather than the relative few that supply Nike/Adidas etc.
You didn't address my central point ie what happens to the shirts that fail quality control in the 'official' sweatshop?
 


Han Solo

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You didn't address my central point ie what happens to the shirts that fail quality control in the 'official' sweatshop?
The Shanghaiese industrialists running the show (other Chinese people aren't very good capitalists) are more collaborative than competitive.

No idea about shirt sweatshops, but in the 1980s - when the Shanghaiese were running the toy production in Hong Kong - failed products from a big manufacturer would almost magically turn into a "knockoff" toy from a smaller manufacturer/distributor. Don't know if it works in a similar fashion today but wouldn't surprise me.

While I know next to nothing about the modern, 21th century Shanghaiese industrialist, I doubt there's been a culture change to the point where they throw away "failed" products.
 




TWOCHOICEStom

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You didn't address my central point ie what happens to the shirts that fail quality control in the 'official' sweatshop?

Funnily enough I've literally just seen last season's Arsenal away kit in TK Maxx with missing sponsor. Looked very odd. So there's one thing they do with them at least!

Otherwise I'm not sure. I've not seen any seconds available anywhere online at least. The fakes are just fake.
 




DarrenFreemansPerm

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Sep 28, 2010
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Last year's away kit is now this year's third kit. It is good for two seasons.
I think you’ve misunderstood my post, as I said, last year I got him the away kit (green and black) knowing it would be valid for two seasons. The club have now changed the policy in as much as this year’s away (yellow) is good for this season and then it’s obsolete.
 


Bob!

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I think you’ve misunderstood my post, as I said, last year I got him the away kit (green and black) knowing it would be valid for two seasons. The club have now changed the policy in as much as this year’s away (yellow) is good for this season and then it’s obsolete.

Sorry, I hadn't seen that.

So, three new kits per season from next year then?
 








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