[Politics] Protests/rioting in lots of places

wellquickwoody said:

Right on cue. TAH DAH!

Hardly a paragon of unbiased comment.

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DavidinSouthampton said:

In terms of mass illegal immigration, i saw somewhere a few days ago that the number of people turning up in boats here is far lower than in Italy or a couple of other places.

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Bold Seagull said:

So all the heinous crimes against children back then didn’t happen, or neither Hindley or Brady were mentally ill, or Dunblane was a gun rather than a knife…no one is ever sure what you’re actually trying to say.

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wellquickwoody said:

When a significant minority group is marginalised it is done with great risks involved. Terms like facist, racist, Neanderthal, moron, knucklehead, scum etc etc are banded around freely without much thought as to their accuracy or their effect. Whilst offering no support in anyway to the actions of those who rioted rather than remembering in Southport, or those who attempt to trash mosques, synagogues and police stations, it should be acknowledged that many people on the right (not far, or extreme) feel utterly disenfranchised. It is what led to Brexit, and it seems those guilty of the marginalisation still have their heads stuck in the sand.

There has been a major increase in the number of foreign nationals arriving on British shores in the last fifteen years, whether they are legitimate migrants, asylum seekers or whatever. When people who have felt uneasy about this (be it fear of change or economic reasons in areas like Lincolnshire) have voiced concerns they have been dismissed as poorly educated, ill informed or worse by those who feel morally superior. Even after the Brexit result there has been a constant diatribe of insulting and patronising comment towards those who voted for it, constantly blaming them for nearly all of the problems in the UK. So even when in an electoral majority many of the voters feel vilified and ignored by the so called educated classes and politicians.

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wellquickwoody said:

Significant minority groups need yo be listened to, but as Brexit showed, this group are more than a ’minority’. They are an undeniable factor in British culture and politics. Forget Farage and Robinson, they are just opportunists jumping onto a passing bandwagon and then trying to take the reins. Serious politicians should be listening to the genuine concerns that a sizeable part of the electorate have. This does not mean granting every persons every wish, but more of gaining a feel of how to get the less reactive and inflammatory folk who feel disenfranchised back into the fold of mainstream politics.

Basically it would be foolish to continue to dismiss and ignore the feelings of a sizeable chunk of the population as it leads to what is happening now. Less inflammatory and dismissive language is required from all sides in an attempt to find common goals. This needs to happen in big politics, but also should start being practised by the community at large, especially online. Even those in positions of so called authority should perhaps ’moderate’ their tone.

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aolstudios said:

Remind me what your ban was for?

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Berty23 said:

Or the wests.

Child abuse didn’t happen in the church either.

Modern day Lucy letby etc.

It is almost like they just ignore things that don’t fit the narrative.

Let’s all pretend several members of EDL have not been done for paedo crimes too.

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antelope said:

Far right, Racist, Fascist, Extremist, Gammon etc....

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antelope said:

Far right, Racist, Fascist, Extremist, Gammon etc. – all terms employed by Money Power, and parroted loudest by useful enclave idiots to pathologise that which has been normative, default and foundational throughout all history, namely straightforward ethnic nativism, a desire to preserve. A position that is absolutely not (“muh 1930’s Germany”) ideological and does not exist on any kind of tightly constrained neo liberal left right axiality.

You can either have genuine human diversity, a truly wonderful thing, or you can have the multicult version of “diversity” which is merely code for a transitional, balkanized, group based muddle along which is dissolutive toward one of the major strains of genuine diversity, namely white Europeans.

How is it Fascist, racist, insert whatever pejorative, for a people to reject its colonisation?

Scrolling through this thread part of the problem seems to be that most people are so dumbed down that their only understanding of a society is as some kind of economic zone populated by an interchangeable biomass of consumer units. Any other existential idea of what it is to be human; that you are part of a something greater has been all but lost. Absolutely heart-breaking.

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Pevenseagull said:

Can I have a go?


Xenophobic, chauvanist, mouth breathing, violent, thick ****s who can't handle their beer.

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antelope said:

Far right, Racist, Fascist, Extremist, Gammon etc. – all terms employed by Money Power, and parroted loudest by useful enclave idiots to pathologise that which has been normative, default and foundational throughout all history, namely straightforward ethnic nativism, a desire to preserve. A position that is absolutely not (“muh 1930’s Germany”) ideological and does not exist on any kind of tightly constrained neo liberal left right axiality.

You can either have genuine human diversity, a truly wonderful thing, or you can have the multicult version of “diversity” which is merely code for a transitional, balkanized, group based muddle along which is dissolutive toward one of the major strains of genuine diversity, namely white Europeans.

How is it Fascist, racist, insert whatever pejorative, for a people to reject its colonisation?

Scrolling through this thread part of the problem seems to be that most people are so dumbed down that their only understanding of a society is as some kind of economic zone populated by an interchangeable biomass of consumer units. Any other existential idea of what it is to be human; that you are part of a something greater has been all but lost. Absolutely heart-breaking.

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WATFORD zero said:

But there has been a Government from the right that have been constantly moving towards this minority over the last 14 years, in some cases taking huge steps towards them, the advisory referendum, Johnson's Brexit, Stoppin Asylum requests from abroad, shutting down asylum schemes, Rwanda etc etc.

Rather than the concerns of these people being dismissed, they have actually been embraced by the last 14 years of Government with a constant 'stop the immigrants' line going right back to Theresa May as Home Secretary "to create here in Britain a really hostile environment for illegal migration" well over a decade ago.

So I struggle to understand why this particular group should feel 'disenfranchised' when they have been getting what they've all been voting for for years now.



It's all very well for you to say 'forget Farage and Robinson' but these are the exact people who have convinced this group (together with Johnson, Patel, Braverman, Anderson etc etc) that they will help these people, when it has become very evident that they are simply peddling lies and only out for themselves. And who are at the forefront of organising the current riots ?

I wonder if this is actually at the heart of the anger and frustration this group feels, some of the poorest in society being fed years of misinformation whilst they grow steadily poorer and the country's infrastructure collapses around them

That together with a few violent, stupid racists.

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DJ NOBO said:

I have major concerns about immigration rates in this country.
Am I far right? Am I racist?

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antelope said:

Far right, Racist, Fascist, Extremist, Gammon etc. – all terms employed by Money Power, and parroted loudest by useful enclave idiots to pathologise that which has been normative, default and foundational throughout all history, namely straightforward ethnic nativism, a desire to preserve. A position that is absolutely not (“muh 1930’s Germany”) ideological and does not exist on any kind of tightly constrained neo liberal left right axiality.

You can either have genuine human diversity, a truly wonderful thing, or you can have the multicult version of “diversity” which is merely code for a transitional, balkanized, group based muddle along which is dissolutive toward one of the major strains of genuine diversity, namely white Europeans.

How is it Fascist, racist, insert whatever pejorative, for a people to reject its colonisation?

Scrolling through this thread part of the problem seems to be that most people are so dumbed down that their only understanding of a society is as some kind of economic zone populated by an interchangeable biomass of consumer units. Any other existential idea of what it is to be human; that you are part of a something greater has been all but lost. Absolutely heart-breaking.

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Harry Wilson's tackle said:

Eloquent.

I'm getting very bored with white people moaning about unfairness. The sort of herberts who spent their school days disrupting classes and bunking off. And they wonder why they can't get a well-paid job? So they blame Muslims.

Lazy and thick. And whipped up by sorts who get a hard-on 'directing' young working class males.

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antelope said:

Far right, Racist, Fascist, Extremist, Gammon etc. – all terms employed by Money Power, and parroted loudest by useful enclave idiots to pathologise that which has been normative, default and foundational throughout all history, namely straightforward ethnic nativism, a desire to preserve. A position that is absolutely not (“muh 1930’s Germany”) ideological and does not exist on any kind of tightly constrained neo liberal left right axiality.

You can either have genuine human diversity, a truly wonderful thing, or you can have the multicult version of “diversity” which is merely code for a transitional, balkanized, group based muddle along which is dissolutive toward one of the major strains of genuine diversity, namely white Europeans.

How is it Fascist, racist, insert whatever pejorative, for a people to reject its colonisation?

Scrolling through this thread part of the problem seems to be that most people are so dumbed down that their only understanding of a society is as some kind of economic zone populated by an interchangeable biomass of consumer units. Any other existential idea of what it is to be human; that you are part of a something greater has been all but lost. Absolutely heart-breaking.

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antelope said:

Far right, Racist, Fascist, Extremist, Gammon etc. – all terms employed by Money Power, and parroted loudest by useful enclave idiots to pathologise that which has been normative, default and foundational throughout all history, namely straightforward ethnic nativism, a desire to preserve. A position that is absolutely not (“muh 1930’s Germany”) ideological and does not exist on any kind of tightly constrained neo liberal left right axiality.

You can either have genuine human diversity, a truly wonderful thing, or you can have the multicult version of “diversity” which is merely code for a transitional, balkanized, group based muddle along which is dissolutive toward one of the major strains of genuine diversity, namely white Europeans.

How is it Fascist, racist, insert whatever pejorative, for a people to reject its colonisation?

Scrolling through this thread part of the problem seems to be that most people are so dumbed down that their only understanding of a society is as some kind of economic zone populated by an interchangeable biomass of consumer units. Any other existential idea of what it is to be human; that you are part of a something greater has been all but lost. Absolutely heart-breaking.

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