[Misc] Bully XL’s

The Clamp · Sep 11, 2023

Should they be banned?

Irrelevance.

They already are. They are a pit bull breed and should not be owned by anyone.

At the very least they should have a muzzling order on them.

I have no idea why anyone other than a criminal moron would want to own such an ugly, dangerous, monster. Let alone have it in the house.

I’d like to see the breed wiped out.

What say you?

The Fits · Sep 11, 2023

I don't understand why anyone would want to own a dog so big and potentially dangerous.
Just doesn't make any sense.

deletebeepbeepbeep · Sep 11, 2023

The Fits said:
I don't understand why anyone would want to own a dog so big and potentially dangerous.
Just doesn't make any sense.

Overcompasating, basically the chav version of a Ferrari.

WATFORD zero · Sep 11, 2023

There's a neighbour of ours who takes out their Japanese Akita dog with their toddler and baby in a pushchair.

Why would you take the risk with of having that thing and young children in the same house :shrug:

'But he's never done anything like that before', Like I've never set off an AK48 in my house but I prefer not to keep one, just in case :facepalm:

The Clamp · Sep 11, 2023

I see people, including small teenage boys and girls out walking all sorts of monster dogs. Some I don’t even know the breed. I do know that if that dog decided to go, there isn’t a damned thing the dog walker could do about it.

They have trouble keeping them under control when the dog is just walking along, let alone if it went for someone.

If I see these morons I move as far away as I can from them. I’ll leave the park when I see them around.

Gabbafella · Sep 11, 2023

My niece has two XL's and two of my sisters have one each, I think they're asking for trouble because nothing is stopping that thing from ripping their kids to bits if something triggers it.
Personally, I'd ban them. I saw there was yet another attack at the weekend which left several people injured. How many more attacks are needed?

The Fits · Sep 11, 2023

I have run ins with Bully owners all the time. There's lots in Bristol City Centre. Just last week one said to me 'wait until we see you on your own'.
We were passing on a bridge, my dog 10kgs and on a short leash, his a 60kg beast going absolutely spare. He was telling me to keep my dog under control whilst his dragged him towards us. I don't back down so I was mouthing off at him but realised it probably wasn't a battle I could win.
A dog walking friend is in private security and former SAS, lovely but obviously a very 'hard' chap. He's made it clear, and is very unapologetic, that if one comes anywhere near our dogs (there's a big group of regular small/medium dogs that meet up) that he'll kill the dog. He's definitely not just saying it.
It's makes no sense.

Questions · Sep 11, 2023

My Chihuahua killed his first crane fly today.

The Fits · Sep 11, 2023

Feels like quite an Americanisation of liberty. I want it so I'll have it.
If they're outlawed I do feel terribly for owners who have dogs that they love, but a dog that is heavier than a human being, trained to fight/kill and can literally rip a human to shreds has absolutely no part to play in a sensible society, muzzle or not.

The Clamp · Sep 11, 2023

There’s a flat near my house and it has a tiny balcony / outside area. It’s on ground level. There are always two massive dogs sat there, behind railings that only come up to head height on the dogs. They could do easily leap them.

They’re not bullies but they have cropped ears, deranged eyes and are massive. Those dogs that look at you with zero character or personality.

I stopped near them the other day to check a message, without realising it was that flat and I nearly shat myself when I heard growling and looked up to see I was on the pavement next to their railings. They were clearly getting territorial.

Keeping two massive dogs in such a small environment is begging for trouble. I only hope they go for the owners and not a passer by.

The Grockle · Sep 11, 2023

We have a 42kg red fox labrabdor, very powerful and I would imagine he'd have no problem causing life threatening injuries to most children and many adults if he was that way inclined. He is socialised, regularly exercised and very well trained so he is incredibly well behaved.

I appreciate some dogs are more likely to show aggressive behaviour but I'm strong believer in nurture over nature with dogs, give an XL bully to a family who invest in training and socialisation and they would be as safe as most large dogs IMO.

The problem lies with the wrong people taking on large dogs. People who don't have the space to care for such dogs, the intelligence or patience to invest the time into training and give then the care they require.

The answer for me is a license required to be a dog owner which includes a home visit and not being able to take on a puppy until you've obtained said licence for that particular breed. There's a dog for every type of family and abode IMO.

The Clamp · Sep 11, 2023

croydon seagull said:
We have a 42kg red fox labrabdor, very powerful and I would imagine he'd have no problem causing life threatening injuries to most children and many adults if he was that way inclined. He is socialised, regularly exercised and very well trained so he is incredibly well behaved.

I appreciate some dogs are more likely to show aggressive behaviour but I'm strong believer in nurture over nature with dogs, give an XL bully to a family who invest in training and socialisation and they would be as safe as most large dogs IMO.

The problem lies with the wrong people taking on large dogs. People who don't have the space to care for such dogs, the intelligence or patience to invest the time into training and give then the care they require.

The answer for me is a license required to be a dog owner which includes a home visit and not being able to take on a puppy until you've obtained said licence for that particular breed. There's a dog for every type of family and abode IMO.

I beg to differ. These dogs are bred for fighting and bred to be aggressive. You can’t train or socialise that out of them. IMO.

vegster · Sep 11, 2023

The Clamp said:
Should they be banned?

Irrelevance.

They already are. They are a pit bull breed and should not be owned by anyone.

At the very least they should have a muzzling order on them.

I have no idea why anyone other than a criminal moron would want to own such an ugly, dangerous, monster. Let alone have it in the house.

I’d like to see the breed wiped out.

What say you?

There was a phone in on 5Live this morning on the subject. Very good contribution from a Vet who said that there will always be a type of person that wants a certain type of dog...the breeds will change but, that type of person will move on to the next unbanned breed of dog. Depending on your age there is always a " breed " that is favoured...for me I recall it was Alsatians then Dobermans, Pit Bulls then Ridgebacks...now its bully things...sadly this goes on forever and will never be resolved. Some blame the breed, some blame the owners...its a circular argument that never ends.

The Grockle · Sep 11, 2023

croydon seagull said:
We have a 42kg red fox labrabdor, very powerful and I would imagine he'd have no problem causing life threatening injuries to most children and many adults if he was that way inclined. He is socialised, regularly exercised and very well trained so he is incredibly well behaved.

I appreciate some dogs are more likely to show aggressive behaviour but I'm strong believer in nurture over nature with dogs, give an XL bully to a family who invest in training and socialisation and they would be as safe as most large dogs IMO.

The problem lies with the wrong people taking on large dogs. People who don't have the space to care for such dogs, the intelligence or patience to invest the time into training and give then the care they require.

The answer for me is a license required to be a dog owner which includes a home visit and not being able to take on a puppy until you've obtained said licence for that particular breed. There's a dog for every type of family and abode IMO.

The Fits · Sep 11, 2023

But a Labrador (or Doberman or staffy etc) isn't a Bully XL. There's no place for them in our lives. Just like we don't have pet tigers and lions. You cant just bundle them all up as dogs. They're dangerous animals.

The Clamp · Sep 11, 2023

The Fits said:
But a Labrador isn't a Bully XL. There's no place for them in our lives. Just like we don't have pet tigers and lions. You cant just bundle them all up as dogs. They're dangerous animals.

This.

Most large dogs could do some serious damage. Most don’t.

The Grockle · Sep 11, 2023

The Clamp said:
I beg to differ. These dogs are bred for fighting and bred to be aggressive. You can’t train or socialise that out of them. IMO.

I agree they are more likely to be aggressive but alot comes down to the owner IMO.

Staffordshire bull terriers are the perfect example of the perfect family dog that in the wrong hands can be dangerous and aggressive.

herecomesaregular · Sep 11, 2023

There's a god awful couple (yes, judgemental) who have a pair of monster dogs and must live near London Road, as I see them being pulled all over the place along there quite often. The dogs seem friendly, the couple seem off their heads and wouldn't be able to control them in any way. There should be stricter controls on dog ownership in this country imo.

portlock seagull · Sep 11, 2023

The Fits said:
I don't understand why anyone would want to own a dog so big and potentially dangerous.
Just doesn't make any sense.

Usual radio and newspaper debates today. What I never understand is the “pro” (latest breed in the dock) defenders reasoning. It’s always “I’ve got one and it puts my kids to bed, my baby rides around the house on, it wouldn’t harm a fly blah blah” when clearly if (if every dog is capable) then having the equivalent of a SABRE TOOTH TIGER in your house isn’t going to end well for the baby/child/adult.

Why not get a sensible sized dog, rather than risk one that - if it flips - will EAT your child etc, rather than ‘merely’ bite? And why own something that strikes fear into your average pedestrian, never mind other dog owners?

This are the types of people whose defence - down the park after an attack - always begins with “he’s never done that before…”. The only reasonable response to that is to smack em in the gob and say “I’ve never done that before, either” as defence.

These idiots need saving from themselves. They’re too stupid to reason with so simply Ban the breed. Even better, then ban these owners from the gene pool. It needs tidying up after all.

The Fits · Sep 11, 2023

croydon seagull said:
I agree they are more likely to be aggressive but alot comes down to the owner IMO.

Staffordshire bull terriers are the perfect example of the perfect family dog that in the wrong hands can be dangerous and aggressive.

But it's very unlikely a staffy could kill a human. All dogs have potential to lose their nut for whatever reason. There will always be awful and tragic incidents involving even small dogs. But Bully XLs aren't remotely normal.
And I agree about owners. There's always going to be bellcheeses who use their dogs as a weapon/penis extension. But I would much rather those tools were restricted to animals that at least had a slightly less chance of killing us and I think the most sensible way to do that would be ban the breeding of certain massive dogs.
We could start issuing licences and all this bollocks but this country can't even get people to park their cars sensibly so it all seems a bit unlikely to stop. Just ban certain dogs and dogs over a certain weight. We will all get used it it eventually. They're pets for goodness sake.

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