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Your All-Time Sussex XI



The Large One

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Right, let's get controversial...

Murray Goodwin
John Langridge
Ranjitsinjhi
C.B. Fry
Chris Adams (c)
Ted Dexter
Jim Parks Jr
Imran Khan
M.W Tate
Mushtaq Ahmed
Jon Snow

Not particularly balanced, but a start for 11. What do you all reckon?
 














Gwylan

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CB Fry
John Langridge
David Shepherd
KT Ranjitsinjh
Ted Dexter (c)
Jim Parks (jnr)
Tony Greig
Imran Khan
Maurice Tate
John Snow
Mushtaq Ahmed
 


Publius Ovidius

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Gillighan?
 






Publius Ovidius

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you would have vasbert drakes in front of John Snow?
 


Gwylan

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One thing that strikes me about Sussex is that they would probably have more candidates for an all-time England XI than just about any other county - apart from Yorkshire.

Fry, Ranji, Greig, Tate and Snow would all be strong candidates: Ranji and Tate would be shoo-ins, in fact.
 






The Large One

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Of course, I have also missed out the likes of James Langridge, Jim Parks Sr, Paul Parker, Tony Greig, Duleepsinjhi, Nawab of Pataudi, Alan Oakman, Ken Suttle, David Shepherd, Ian Gould, Garth Le Roux, Kepler Wessels, Ian Thomson, George Cox Sr, Arthur Gilligan, Javed Miandad, Gehan Mendis, John Barclay...
 


The Large One

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Curiously, Gwylan, I notice you have Ted Dexter in the side as skipper with no Chris Adams, but you do have Tony Greig. Throw into the mix John Barclay and you have four excellent captains from the past 40 years.

What's your reasoning behind Dexter's choice as skipper over Greig or Adams?
 


Gwylan

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Curiously, Gwylan, I notice you have Ted Dexter in the side as skipper with no Chris Adams, but you do have Tony Greig. Throw into the mix John Barclay and you have four excellent captains from the past 40 years.

What's your reasoning behind Dexter's choice as skipper over Greig or Adams?

Dexter was an imaginative and risk-taking captain. I believe that John Barclay was even better - probably the best captain Sussex have ever had. Greig was an inspiring player but Sussex under his captaincy won no trophies and finished 16th or 17th every year. I think that Greig is under-rated these days: he plotted his copybook with the Packer recruitment but he was an exceptional player.

It was a tough call between Adams and Dexter but the latter was a much, much better batsman and Adams as a captain is inclined to be conservative, batting on until the game is safe and lettting Mushy off the leash.
 




Mendoza

NSC's Most Stalked
well take your pick from.......


A
Edward Aburrow senior
William Anderson (cricketer)
Chris Adams (cricketer)
Percy Adams
Mohammad Akram
Rehan Alikhan
Tim Ambrose
Geoff Arnold
Bill Athey
B
James Baker (cricketer)
John Barclay (cricketer)
Jack Barley
Hugh Bartlett
George Bean
Ronald Bell (cricketer)
Michael Bevan
Timothy Bloomfield
Ted Bowley
Jem Broadbridge
Ian Broome
Harry Butt
C
Freddie Calthorpe
Henry Charlwood
Dominic Clapp
Thomas Cook (cricketer)
Tich Cornford
George Cox junior
George Cox senior
D
Jemmy Dean
Ted Dexter
Michael Di Venuto
Tony Dodemaide
Hubert Doggart
Vasbert Drakes
Kumar Shri Duleepsinhji
E.B. Dwyer
E
Alex Edwards
F
Percy Fender
C. B. Fry
G
Sir William Gage, 7th Baronet
Clement Gibson
Arthur Gilligan
Harold Gilligan
Murray Goodwin
Ian Gould
Peter Graves (cricketer)
Geoff Greenidge
Ian Greig
Tony Greig
Billy Griffith
Mike Griffith
H
John Hammond (cricketer)
John Hartley (cricketer)
Paul Havell
H cont.
Arthur Haygarth
Sean Heather
Harold Heygate
Andrew Hodd
Carl Hopkinson
Will House
Paul Hutchison (cricketer)
I
Imran Khan
J
Maurice Jewell
Allan Arthur Jones
Vallance Jupp
Shane Jurgensen
K
Wasim Khan
Ernest Killick
Peter Kirsten
James Kirtley
Roger Knight
L
James Langridge
John Langridge
Richard Langridge
Danny Law
Garth Le Roux
Neil Lenham
Jason Lewry
Christopher Liddle
James Lillywhite
John Lillywhite
William Lillywhite
Timothy Linley
Arnold Long
M
Mansoor Ali Khan Pataudi
Robin Marlar
Robin Martin-Jenkins
Alan Melville
Gehan Mendis
Javed Miandad
Richard Montgomerie
Peter Moores (cricketer)
Henry Morley (cricketer)
Billy Murdoch
Mushtaq Ahmed
Alfred Mynn
N
Rana Naved-ul-Hasan
Keith Newell
Mark Newell
Billy Newham
Richard Newland
O
Alan Oakman
P
Paul Parker (cricketer)
Jim Parks senior
Harry Parks
Jim Parks junior
Austin Parsons
Andrew Patterson
Nick Phillips
P cont.
Tony Pigott
Matthew Prior (cricketer)
James Pyemont
Q
Willie Quaife
R
Terence Racionzer
Toby Radford
K S Ranjitsinhji
Umer Rashid
Ollie Rayner
Dermot Reeve
Albert Relf
Robert Relf (cricketer)
Charles Lennox, 1st Duke of Richmond
Charles Lennox, 2nd Duke of Richmond
Ridgeway (Sussex cricketer)
Henry Roberts (cricketer)
Mark Robinson (cricketer)
S
Ian Salisbury
Saqlain Mushtaq
James Saunders (cricketer)
Alfred Shaw
David Sheppard
Harry Simms
Aubrey Smith
C. L. A. Smith
John Snow (cricketer)
Eknath Solkar
James Southerton
Jan Southgate
Martin Speight
Duncan Spencer
John Spencer (cricketer)
Franklyn Stephenson
Ken Suttle
T
Fred Tate
Maurice Tate
Billy Taylor (cricketer)
Charles Taylor (cricketer)
Ian Thomson
Neil Turk
V
Johan van der Wath
Jasper Vinall
Joe Vine
Jason Voros
W
Ian Ward
Thomas Waymark
Alan Wells
Kepler Wessels
John Wisden
Luke Wright (cricketer)
Y
Michael Yardy
Yasir Arafat (cricketer)
Z
Bastiaan Zuiderent
 


The Large One

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Dexter was an imaginative and risk-taking captain. I believe that John Barclay was even better - probably the best captain Sussex have ever had. Greig was an inspiring player but Sussex under his captaincy won no trophies and finished 16th or 17th every year. I think that Greig is under-rated these days: he plotted his copybook with the Packer recruitment but he was an exceptional player.

It was a tough call between Adams and Dexter but the latter was a much, much better batsman and Adams as a captain is inclined to be conservative, batting on until the game is safe and lettting Mushy off the leash.
I'd say you're possibly only looking at a limited number of aspects.

I agree that Dexter was imaginative - and had to be - bearing in mind he had to cope with the new concept of one day cricket and all that. However, while Dexter was a nifty batsman, Adams is no slouch either, and I wouldn't call him conservative when batting - I'd say he's often quite flamboyant. I do take your point about going out to not lose a game, as opposed to winning it, but for me this is a strength in Adams. He is a canny tactician in the field; who relies on batters AND bowlers to win matches.

It helps that he is blessed with having a world-class match-winning bowler (although Dexter also had that in the form of John Snow), so in that sense, there wouldn't be much to choose.

Adams' other strength is getting the best out of a team made up of - in the most part - kids and journeymen. Plus he has achieved something no other Sussex captain has ever done - win the Championship - and he has done it three times.

There resteth my case for Grizzly.
 












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