Titus Bramble has been at it again...

[NickBHAFC18]

BBC News - Sunderland

How many times is this now? Can't stand the bloke. Since his arrival in the Premier League he has been nothing but trouble and he is constantly in the headlines for the wrong reasons.

 

[Badger]

Suppose it draws attention away from how mediocre he is at football.

 

[Digweeds Trousers]

I think every footballer who is not a team mate is extremely grateful and thankful Titus has been playing premier league football. A defender with a penchant for some epic calamities. The game is richer with him playing. Just pray to God he never turns up at a club you support.

He appears to be a complete bell-end off the pitch as well which is sad - a berk on it and a twat off it. Not really much going for him is there?

 

[Sheebo]

BBC News - Sunderland

How many times is this now? Can't stand the bloke. Since his arrival in the Premier League he has been nothing but trouble and he is constantly in the headlines for the wrong reasons.

Is this not the same case that came out a while back?

 

[NickBHAFC18]

Is this not the same case that came out a while back?

This incident occurred in September, but I'm not sure if its the same one as before...This story on the BBC was published today

 

[Goldstone Rapper]

And to think such a seemingly reprehensible character came from that glorious and highly popular Ipswich side of the early 2000s....

 

[lighthouse]

It is not clear to me whether she consented or he just had a good feeling about it.

 

[Acker79]

It is the same case from back in september. This is the trial, back then it was just announced that he had been charged.

BBC News - Footballer Titus Bramble on third sexual assault charge

 

[turienzo's lovechild]

having met him in a club in newcastle i can confirm that he is a grade-a prick

 

[finlaych]

 

[rocker959]

Put him in a cell with Joey Barton and throw away the key.

 

[Weststander]

Innocent until proven guilty ... but strange how's been on charges so often. If guilty, will his luck run out?
This time an independent witness, the appalled taxi driver, came forward.

Perhaps Ched will have some company quite soon?

 

[Superphil]

Looks like he hasn't been 'at it' at all. Cleared of all charges, all made up by the women in question.

 

[Acker79]

Looks like he hasn't been 'at it' at all. Cleared of all charges, all made up by the women in question.

Were they all made up, or just unable to be proven beyond a reasonable doubt in a court of law?

 

[Del Boy]

Were they all made up, or just unable to be proven beyond a reasonable doubt in a court of law?

This.

 

[Superphil]

Were they all made up, or just unable to be proven beyond a reasonable doubt in a court of law?

the woman who had the arse pinch in the club confirmed she didnt see who did it, but that TB was smirking, she admitted that she had no idea whether it was him or not. The women in the cab had been snogging with him, then apparenly changed her tune

"Mr Bramble admitted that he was "quite drunk" on the night of 28 September 2011 and shared a consensual kiss with the woman in the back of a cab before her mood changed. Believing something was wrong, the taxi driver took the pair to a police station, where Mr Bramble was arrested."

:SHRUG:

 

[BensGrandad]

It was alleged that she was forced to put her hand on his groin whether it was by choice or force perhaps she wasn't impressed hence possibly the change of mood.

 

[Acker79]

the woman who had the arse pinch in the club confirmed she didnt see who did it, but that TB was smirking, she admitted that she had no idea whether it was him or not. The women in the cab had been snogging with him, then apparenly changed her tune

"Mr Bramble admitted that he was "quite drunk" on the night of 28 September 2011 and shared a consensual kiss with the woman in the back of a cab before her mood changed. Believing something was wrong, the taxi driver took the pair to a police station, where Mr Bramble was arrested."

:SHRUG:

So one woman was touched unwillingly, and believed it to be titus because of his reaction. I wouldn't call that 'making it all up'. Jumping to conclusions, perhaps, but she clearly was the victim of someone.

The second woman changed her mind (which she has every right to do) and the actions of the woman and titus was enough for a taxi driver to feel uncomfortable enough to drive them to the police. Again, not 'made up'

Accusations of this kind are always an awkward thing to discuss, "innocent until proven guilty" would automatically assume the alleged victim is lying, (which is wrong for them, because surely they're innocent of lying, wasting police time, slander, etc. until proven guilty of that?). And I can understand a need to point out that the attitude of "Titus at it again" was wrong to exhibit before the trial. But I'm uncomfortable suggesting because a woman couldn't prove in a court of law that she was a victim, that she is making it all up.

 

[Kumquat]

Could do a job?

 

[Superphil]

So one woman was touched unwillingly, and believed it to be titus because of his reaction. I wouldn't call that 'making it all up'. Jumping to conclusions, perhaps, but she clearly was the victim of someone.

The second woman changed her mind (which she has every right to do) and the actions of the woman and titus was enough for a taxi driver to feel uncomfortable enough to drive them to the police. Again, not 'made up'

Accusations of this kind are always an awkward thing to discuss, "innocent until proven guilty" would automatically assume the alleged victim is lying. And I can understand a need to point out that the attitude of "Titus at it again" was wrong to exhibit before the trial. But I'm uncomfortable suggesting because a woman couldn't prove in a court of law that she was a victim, that she is making it all up.

All very far points, and i agree with you, but in the case of the arse pinch, it was made up, she had no idea who did it, no-one saw it, but she managed to get the multi millionaire footballer charged with it, rather than any of the other people who were in the bar.

The taxi incident does sound a lot more worrying and the cabbie probably did the right thing, but if that wasn't enough evidence, what would constitute enough?