BrightonPara
New member
- Apr 6, 2012
- 29
Good Morning.
Just thought id share my thoughts with you on life at the Amex and BHAFC from an outsider's point of view.
For some time I have watched NSC with interest, watched the posts, the responding comments and thoughts of other Brighton Supporters.
I think you need to look at things in prospective.
On Gus........
He is only 45 years old, which means if the club keep going in the right direction you have a manager to keep leading you the way forward. He has an approach to a different style of football, which is admired by some top managers. He has had to re-build and make bigger the backroom staff, suggest players he would like to bring in to the 'Head of Football Operations', who then says we cant afford them, but we can afford these.
Gus has only just completed his third year with the club. In his short time at the club he has over seen :
09-10 He steered Albion clear of relegation,
10-11 Promotion as Champions to the Championship,
11-12 The successful move to the Amex and a good solid start to the Championship, excellent cup run including beating two premiership teams and drawing with Liverpool at home.
12-13 Started very well and sitting in 8th place, only 9 points off of 1st place
13-14 Start with 30'000 seater stadium and in December move to a brand new state of the art training centre
Surely you as the supporters did not expect back to back promotions to the Premiership. The club do not have the players needed to make any kind of impact on the Premiership. Gus can not attract starts to the club when they still currently get changed for training in kitted out 'containers' essentially.
On the Players..........
The current crop of player are already a credit to themselves and the club. Its simple maths, with the amount of Div 1 and low level Championship players the club have on their books from gaining promotion, it would be impossible to replace them in 1 or 2 seasons to make going into the premiership worth while.
Casper Ankergram
Peter Brezovan
Marcus Painter
Adam El Abd who's proffesionelism is beyond belief
Gordon Greer
Lewis Dunk (un-tested at higher level)
Liam Bridcutt
Ryan Harley
Gary Dicker
Matt Sparrow
Craig Mackill Smith
Ashley Barnes
Will Hoskins
Let alone replacing the older players who in that time would become ineffective at that level.
Vicente
Wayne Bridge
Bruno
Thomas Kuzack
Gordon Greer (Again)
Where you have come from...
Since 1997 famous draw against Hereford that saved the club. The club has since employed 12 managers, of which has seen the club move up and down the leagues but never consolidate their position.
4 promotions, 2 relegation's, 3 stadiums and 15 years later...........
2012 has seen the club compete with clubs up and down the country who have more money to spend and a better crop of established Championship and lower premiership quality of players.
At Home at the Amex
May 2011 - moved to brand new state of the Art the stadium, in which you have 22'500 seats to sit on.
Ive seen enough posts on here about north stand stewards and the issues of sitting.
This is not the 80's / 90's, the laughable attitude of some 'supporters' who have watched one to many films and think its an opportunity to act like a thug is just plain out dated and boring. You want to fight and act the big hard man go to Afghan.
I do share the frustration of supporter tho who are told to sit down whilst away supporters are pretty much left alone. That is something the club have to address.
All seater stadiums were brought in after numerous incidents around the world with over crowding and deaths. The fact that some supporters are physically fighting each other in the stand only shows how childish some are.
Stewards are there for YOUR safety, not to be abused and hit like at the Bolton game. Most of the staff at the stadium are Brighton supporters, so feel your frustration. They have normal jobs, just like you, they get paid but work extra to ensure your safety, you would soon require there help if you lost your child, your ticket doesn't work, require first aid or should it ever happen you would listen to them if the stadium had to be evacuated.
The club did NOT sell the tickets for the rear 8 rows as 'standing' and i know this for a fact. Whether it was a 'relaxed' approach towards the rear 8 rows or 'we'll take our time getting to the rear 8 rows' is more unclear. Stewards do not enjoy repeatedly telling people to sit down, however that is the agreed approach with the people who issue the safety certificate for the stadium. So people who decide to purposely start the chant of 'stand up if you hate palace' just to piss stewards off will obviously be removed! Has anyone actually thought about working with the stewards and enjoying the football rather than arguing all the time, remember not all members of the north stand are able to stand for 90 minutes, some people (Young ladies and lads) are to small to stand and watch.
Just because you consider the north stand to be the 'die hard' supporter stand doesn't make you any more of a supporter than those in the upper west or lower east who do listen to their stewards.
This is by no means to insult people or question your support, however more patience is required especially with Gus and the players. The club do not have millions and millions of pounds to buy established premiership players. The Club is still growing and in some parts especially on the non playing side of the club still has the small 'withdean' mentality.
What you are asking is to go from a run down corner shop to an all signing and dancing Super market in 4 years.
To sum up............ The club do not want to take part in the 'Operation Market Garden' effect, one of the biggest military failures ever. In another words what is the point of rushing the process of getting to the premiership only to have to come back down again. Why not build up, appreciate what you have, get the momentum going, ensure everything is in the right place...... THEN go for an all out assault.
Just thought id share my thoughts with you on life at the Amex and BHAFC from an outsider's point of view.
For some time I have watched NSC with interest, watched the posts, the responding comments and thoughts of other Brighton Supporters.
I think you need to look at things in prospective.
On Gus........
He is only 45 years old, which means if the club keep going in the right direction you have a manager to keep leading you the way forward. He has an approach to a different style of football, which is admired by some top managers. He has had to re-build and make bigger the backroom staff, suggest players he would like to bring in to the 'Head of Football Operations', who then says we cant afford them, but we can afford these.
Gus has only just completed his third year with the club. In his short time at the club he has over seen :
09-10 He steered Albion clear of relegation,
10-11 Promotion as Champions to the Championship,
11-12 The successful move to the Amex and a good solid start to the Championship, excellent cup run including beating two premiership teams and drawing with Liverpool at home.
12-13 Started very well and sitting in 8th place, only 9 points off of 1st place
13-14 Start with 30'000 seater stadium and in December move to a brand new state of the art training centre
Surely you as the supporters did not expect back to back promotions to the Premiership. The club do not have the players needed to make any kind of impact on the Premiership. Gus can not attract starts to the club when they still currently get changed for training in kitted out 'containers' essentially.
On the Players..........
The current crop of player are already a credit to themselves and the club. Its simple maths, with the amount of Div 1 and low level Championship players the club have on their books from gaining promotion, it would be impossible to replace them in 1 or 2 seasons to make going into the premiership worth while.
Casper Ankergram
Peter Brezovan
Marcus Painter
Adam El Abd who's proffesionelism is beyond belief
Gordon Greer
Lewis Dunk (un-tested at higher level)
Liam Bridcutt
Ryan Harley
Gary Dicker
Matt Sparrow
Craig Mackill Smith
Ashley Barnes
Will Hoskins
Let alone replacing the older players who in that time would become ineffective at that level.
Vicente
Wayne Bridge
Bruno
Thomas Kuzack
Gordon Greer (Again)
Where you have come from...
Since 1997 famous draw against Hereford that saved the club. The club has since employed 12 managers, of which has seen the club move up and down the leagues but never consolidate their position.
4 promotions, 2 relegation's, 3 stadiums and 15 years later...........
2012 has seen the club compete with clubs up and down the country who have more money to spend and a better crop of established Championship and lower premiership quality of players.
At Home at the Amex
May 2011 - moved to brand new state of the Art the stadium, in which you have 22'500 seats to sit on.
Ive seen enough posts on here about north stand stewards and the issues of sitting.
This is not the 80's / 90's, the laughable attitude of some 'supporters' who have watched one to many films and think its an opportunity to act like a thug is just plain out dated and boring. You want to fight and act the big hard man go to Afghan.
I do share the frustration of supporter tho who are told to sit down whilst away supporters are pretty much left alone. That is something the club have to address.
All seater stadiums were brought in after numerous incidents around the world with over crowding and deaths. The fact that some supporters are physically fighting each other in the stand only shows how childish some are.
Stewards are there for YOUR safety, not to be abused and hit like at the Bolton game. Most of the staff at the stadium are Brighton supporters, so feel your frustration. They have normal jobs, just like you, they get paid but work extra to ensure your safety, you would soon require there help if you lost your child, your ticket doesn't work, require first aid or should it ever happen you would listen to them if the stadium had to be evacuated.
The club did NOT sell the tickets for the rear 8 rows as 'standing' and i know this for a fact. Whether it was a 'relaxed' approach towards the rear 8 rows or 'we'll take our time getting to the rear 8 rows' is more unclear. Stewards do not enjoy repeatedly telling people to sit down, however that is the agreed approach with the people who issue the safety certificate for the stadium. So people who decide to purposely start the chant of 'stand up if you hate palace' just to piss stewards off will obviously be removed! Has anyone actually thought about working with the stewards and enjoying the football rather than arguing all the time, remember not all members of the north stand are able to stand for 90 minutes, some people (Young ladies and lads) are to small to stand and watch.
Just because you consider the north stand to be the 'die hard' supporter stand doesn't make you any more of a supporter than those in the upper west or lower east who do listen to their stewards.
This is by no means to insult people or question your support, however more patience is required especially with Gus and the players. The club do not have millions and millions of pounds to buy established premiership players. The Club is still growing and in some parts especially on the non playing side of the club still has the small 'withdean' mentality.
What you are asking is to go from a run down corner shop to an all signing and dancing Super market in 4 years.
To sum up............ The club do not want to take part in the 'Operation Market Garden' effect, one of the biggest military failures ever. In another words what is the point of rushing the process of getting to the premiership only to have to come back down again. Why not build up, appreciate what you have, get the momentum going, ensure everything is in the right place...... THEN go for an all out assault.