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[Drinking] Happy Riesling Day!



Goldstone1976

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Because it’s today, I’m opening this.

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My all time favourite Alsatian Riesling grower. First bottle of this vintage I’m opening. Likely to be far too young really - it’ll age up to 30 years. Nonetheless, it should still be ace.
 




vegster

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May 5, 2008
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Can anyone recommend a Reisling under a tenner that's good ? I just chug white so an expensive bottle would be gone in 45 minutes
 


Machiavelli

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View attachment 198313Had a glass of this last summer when in Germany. Quite astonishing. Almost amber in colour, but the most surprising bit was how dry it had become.
As @Goldstone1976 says, we have a winner on this thread.
Worth adding that one of the signs of a great wine is the ability to age, evolve, develop depth and complexity. German Rieslings have high acidity that facilitates this and counteracts any residual sweetness (which a Spatlese has).
 


Lady Whistledown

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Just poured myself a glass. Got to celebrate the day while we can.
 


Machiavelli

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Oct 11, 2013
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Because it’s today, I’m opening this.

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My all time favourite Alsatian Riesling grower. First bottle of this vintage I’m opening. Likely to be far too young really - it’ll age up to 30 years. Nonetheless, it should still be ace.
Wow. Only had Boxler once IIRC and it was delightful.
For romantic reasons, I'm an enormous fan of Rolly Gassmann and pleased to have stumbled across their wines again of late.
 




Nitram

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Jul 16, 2013
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Kracher, by any chance?
We went to Berlin in 2015 and found a wonderful Austrian restaurant. It was bizarre as when you went to the loo the sound piped through the music system sounded like a Nazi rally. I found out it was commentary on a World Cup match between Germany and Austria, which Austria won!

Anyway they encouraged us to try Austrian wines.
We enjoyed them so much that when we went out if I saw an Austrian wine on the wine list I would always try it.

I’m no expert and don’t remember the names of the wine so could not answer your question but know I’ve never had a bad Austrian wine.

I gave up drinking nearly two years ago and don’t miss alcohol at all, but used to appreciate a good wine.
 


alanfp

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Feb 23, 2024
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Ah, I have only ever had Risling when at a friends house in Hamburg, it was way to sweet for me and I have never tried any since.
Forgive my ignorance.
But you're not ignorant about your own experience of Riesling. Maybe there are Rieslings out there that aren't too sweet and you just haven't found them yet.
I've only tried a few but I didn't find any that I like either and I'm not going to keep on looking any more. What was it Einstein said about keeping doing the same thing and expecting different results?

It's all a matter of personal taste and if there are people who like Riesling then I'm very happy that they enjoy it - it's just not for me.

I very nearly added here "Personally I'll stick to more sophisticated grown-up wines" but I thought better of it ;)
 
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Smoky McPot

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You lucky, lucky bastard. 👍

1971 is the best year of the ‘70s for German Rieslings* without a shadow of a doubt. Most would put it in their top 10 vintages of the century. I’d put it in the top 5 for sure, probably top 3 - precisely because it’s still drinking brilliantly (assuming provenance is ok).

There are basically 5 levels of sweetness of German whites (though inevitably it’s a bit more complicated than that), in increasing levels of sweetness:

Kabinett
Spatlese
Auslese
Beerenauslese
Trockenbeerenauslese

So, a Spat(lese) starts life as just off-dry to definitely off-dry. Age will typically mean it loses some sweetness. Thus, a ‘71 spat wouldn’t be expected to be particularly sweet.

@Herr Tubthumper - yet another free lesson in the wines of your adopted Fatherland. 😊

* Ditto Barolo (and ‘77). NB: Barolo isn’t a German Riesling.
Had a very good chat with Erni Loosen that summer too, it’s interesting to note how global warming is affecting the country and as a result the sweeter TBA, eiswein etc will become rarer and rarer. Sweden maybe be one to look too for these styles.

Completely off topic but recently drank a 100% PN sparkling from Donnhoff that gives alot of grand marques champagne a good run for their money.
 

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Herr Tubthumper

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You lucky, lucky bastard. 👍

1971 is the best year of the ‘70s for German Rieslings* without a shadow of a doubt. Most would put it in their top 10 vintages of the century. I’d put it in the top 5 for sure, probably top 3 - precisely because it’s still drinking brilliantly (assuming provenance is ok).

There are basically 5 levels of sweetness of German whites (though inevitably it’s a bit more complicated than that), in increasing levels of sweetness:

Kabinett
Spatlese
Auslese
Beerenauslese
Trockenbeerenauslese

So, a Spat(lese) starts life as just off-dry to definitely off-dry. Age will typically mean it loses some sweetness. Thus, a ‘71 spat wouldn’t be expected to be particularly sweet.

@Herr Tubthumper - yet another free lesson in the wines of your adopted Fatherland. 😊

* Ditto Barolo (and ‘77). NB: Barolo isn’t a German Riesling.
Always appreciated!
 




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