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England, Our England



just_bhafc

New member
Oct 14, 2003
205
Shoreham Beach
Goodbye to my England - so long my old friend!
Your days, they are numbered, being brought to an end.
To be Scottish, or Irish, or Welsh, that's just fine,
But don't say you're English, 'cause that's way out of line.

The French and the Germans, they may call themselves such,
As may the Norwegians, the Swedes and the Dutch.
You can say that you're Russian, or maybe a Dane,
But don't say you're English, no, not ever again.

At Broadcasting House that word is taboo,
In Brussels they've scrapped it, and Parliament too.
Even in schools the teachers are told,
You mustn't teach children about the England of Old.

Writers like Shakespeare, and Milton, and Shaw,
Do our children learn about them any more?
What of Agincourt, Hastings and Mons?
When She gave up the Her bravest of sons.

We are not Europeans. How on earth can we be?
Europe is miles away; over the sea!
We're the English, from England, so let's all be proud.
Stand up and be counted. - SHOUT IT OUT LOUD.

I've a love for my neighbours, that they'll never deserve,
And their customs and cultures, I'll always observe.
We know the Jocks hate us, and so do the Frogs,
but I won't let my England just go to the dogs.

So let's tell our Government - and Brussels too,
We're proud of our heritage, and the Red, White and Blue.
Fly the flag of St George with the Union Jack.
Let the world be aware - we want our England back.

It doesn't take a scholar or a History Don,
To know that a pendulum swings on & on,
The English have taken about as much as they can,
Just watch us swing back to be heard, man for man.

The wise old historian he knows what's there!
"Let sleeping dogs lie and treat them with care",
'cause if you should rouse them, you'd better take flight,
As the dogs turn to Lions to regain theirs as a right.
 








alan partridge

Active member
Jul 7, 2003
5,256
Linton Travel Tavern
what a crock of shite

'Writers like Shakespeare, and Milton, and Shaw,
Do our children learn about them any more'

yes they do. anyone who's been inside a school would know that.


total fantasy all this rubbish about not being able to be proud of being english
 






alan partridge

Active member
Jul 7, 2003
5,256
Linton Travel Tavern
just_bhafc said:
We are not Europeans. How on earth can we be?
Europe is miles away; over the sea!

i dunno why i'm bothering but what the hell is this "poet" on about? wasn't britain attached to the mainland of europe anyway many moons ago? our population is made up of all manners of european settlers and peoples, and our language, you STUPID MORONS, is 50% germanic 50% romance languages, for example latin and french. YES FRENCH! we speak a european language you mongs. we are part of the european race. we did not beam down to this island from outerspace.

who am i talking to? i don't know... ranting
 










Brighton Breezy

New member
Jul 5, 2003
19,439
Sussex
I think that it is often not politically correct to announce you are proud of being english (i wrote an article about how we should celebrate st george's day for our uni mag and got attacked by the afro caribbean society). But this poem is bollocks.
 


harry_h

New member
Dec 30, 2003
741
Hove
Shaw was Irish

England is in Europe- Ireland treats itself a European country and its further away from central europe than england
 




Brighton Breezy

New member
Jul 5, 2003
19,439
Sussex
just_bhafc said:


I've a love for my neighbours, that they'll never deserve,
And their customs and cultures, I'll always observe.

Hmm..I think out European neighbours who thought alongside us in two world wars probably deserve a lot more then the love of a racist tosser.
 


Arthur

Well-known member
Jul 8, 2003
8,705
Buxted Harbour
Re: Re: England, Our England

Richie Morris said:
Hmm..I think out European neighbours who thought alongside us in two world wars probably deserve a lot more then the love of a racist tosser.

I think you've just completely proved the point of the poet.

You can't be vocal in your love of this country without being branded a racist.
 


Man of Harveys

Well-known member
Jul 9, 2003
18,801
Brighton, UK
Re: Re: Re: England, Our England

Arthur said:
You can't be vocal in your love of this country without being branded a racist.

No, I'd say many people seem to find it quite impossible to be vocal about their love of their country without being racist.

Anyway...Cardiff eh? Good day out.
 




Brighton Breezy

New member
Jul 5, 2003
19,439
Sussex
I recently wrote an article about how we should all join together and celebrate St George's Day and how much it upset me that people celebrate St Patricks Day but not our own patron saints day. The main part of this was how people are worried they may be labelled a racist if outwardly patriotic and english. I received complaints and threats from the afro caribbean society at our university.

HOWEVER,
You just said that you had a love for your neighbours that they dont deserve. How do you justif that? I am in agreement over the fact we should not hide out english pride but think that we do not need to make remarks like that in order to do so. It is because of people like you that english pride is linked to racism. If you do not think this then why include that line in the above poem?
 


Arthur

Well-known member
Jul 8, 2003
8,705
Buxted Harbour
Re: Re: Re: Re: England, Our England

Man of Harveys said:
No, I'd say many people seem to find it quite impossible to be vocal about their love of their country without being racist.

Has the poet been racist?
 








Man of Harveys

Well-known member
Jul 9, 2003
18,801
Brighton, UK
This "us poor little old Englanders versus the hordes over there" dogshit is everything that I thoroughly despise.

So, which pubs in Cardiff then?
 




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