Any roofers/builders on NSC?

[bhafc99]

Looking for some advice on roof repairs - see pix.

It looks like the metal stuff (don't know the technical term) has come away from the wall. And there might be a section of the brown plastic edging/trim missing at the top.

So I don't sound like a complete muppet when I phone some roofers, does anyone know what either of these things are called, and how I should describe the problem?

Any advice welcome, ta!

 

[Tom Hark Preston Park]

Looking for some advice on roof repairs - see pix.

It looks like the metal stuff (don't know the technical term) has come away from the wall. And there might be a section of the brown plastic edging/trim missing at the top.

So I don't sound like a complete muppet when I phone some roofers, does anyone know what either of these things are called, and how I should describe the problem?

Any advice welcome, ta!

Just tell them the roof, the hole roof and nothing but the roof

 

[Stoo82]

The metal stuff is lead.

Just tell the lead water proof things is falling away from the house. HELP ME!!!!!!

You wont sound like and idiot....wel apart from the help me plea

 

[SurreySeagulls]

Not a roofer but is that not the Lead Flashing at the top. You should be able to knock the flashing back into place.

 

[Stoo82]

Not a roofer but is that not the Lead Flashing at the top. You should be able to knock the flashing back into place.

Thats what i thought. It looks like it just needs bit sticky gluey stuff (render or what ever) and a big old nail.

 

[The Antikythera Mechanism]

Looks to me like the roof construction has moved away from the wall pulling the lead flashing with it.

 

[Uncle C]

Looks to me like the roof construction has moved away from the wall pulling the lead flashing with it.

+1 on this. The roof has slipped away from the building by about 2 inches, ripping out the flashing and making the plastic trim now seem as if its 2 inches too short. This sort of movement (and its quite dramatic) should be evident elsewhere on the structure.

 

[Uncle C]

Ok, you dont need to be an expert to to this.

Climb up a ladder to where you took the photo. Bend back that bit of lead about 18 inches.

Next take the highest tile next to the edge that you can successfully lift out. It's inlikely to be nailed. It will be a bit heavy and you may want to wear gardening gloves.

Now take a picture or the uppermost timber, which should be secured well to the wall, but probably is not now.

You may even get a good view with just turning back the lead.

 

[Uncle C]

This is the timber I'm talking about. It is called the wall plate.

 

[Uncle C]

The rafters should be attached to it by nails or screws. In this picture they stand proud, but may also be installed level.

 

[Shinbreath]

Hi bhafc99. I'm a builder...

Yes, that strip of soft metal running across the top is called a lead flashing.

The proper way to fit lead flashing is to chase it into the wall (cut a slot in the brickwork using a disc cutter) then slot the lead in and secure it using mortar. It looks as though it has been tacked to some kind of timber which is still ok as long as its secured properly and sealed properly. Not as good as chasing it in but should still suffice if done properly and may need re-sealing every 2 years.

So basically, when calling a roofer (you don't really need a builder to carry out this work unless the structure needs making good), you need to say that the lead flashing has come away from the timber it has been fixed to and will either need chasing in to the wall and making good or it will need re tacking to the timber and sealing.

If you need a number of a good roofer, let me know and I can put you in touch with mine..

Hope that helps buddy !!!!!!!!

 

[Herr Tubthumper]

Nice bit of pebble dash.

 

[BRIGHT ON Q]

Hi bhafc99. I'm a builder...

Yes, that strip of soft metal running across the top is called a lead flashing.

The proper way to fit lead flashing is to chase it into the wall (cut a slot in the brickwork using a disc cutter) then slot the lead in and secure it using mortar. It looks as though it has been tacked to some kind of timber which is still ok as long as its secured properly and sealed properly. Not as good as chasing it in but should still suffice if done properly and may need re-sealing every 2 years.

So basically, when calling a roofer (you don't really need a builder to carry out this work unless the structure needs making good), you need to say that the lead flashing has come away from the timber it has been fixed to and will either need chasing in to the wall and making good or it will need re tacking to the timber and sealing.

If you need a number of a good roofer, let me know and I can put you in touch with mine..

Hope that helps buddy !!!!!!!!

What time would you leave for Edinburgh from Hove?

 

[Super Steve Earle]

Just had my lead flashing repaired yesterday. Dead reasonable. Nice lad who specialises in roofing leadwork.

Let me know if you want his name & number.

 

[Uncle C]

Hi bhafc99. I'm a builder...

Yes, that strip of soft metal running across the top is called a lead flashing.

The proper way to fit lead flashing is to chase it into the wall (cut a slot in the brickwork using a disc cutter) then slot the lead in and secure it using mortar. It looks as though it has been tacked to some kind of timber which is still ok as long as its secured properly and sealed properly. Not as good as chasing it in but should still suffice if done properly and may need re-sealing every 2 years.

So basically, when calling a roofer (you don't really need a builder to carry out this work unless the structure needs making good), you need to say that the lead flashing has come away from the timber it has been fixed to and will either need chasing in to the wall and making good or it will need re tacking to the timber and sealing.

If you need a number of a good roofer, let me know and I can put you in touch with mine..

Hope that helps buddy !!!!!!!!

Sorry, but on the evidence of what I see the the roof tiles and flashing have moved out together.

Because:

a. It would be highly unprofessional to leave that large a gap between the top row of tiles and the wall.
b. The lead flashing is still neatly dressed into the contours of the tiles. If it had moved on its own to this extent this would not be the case.

But I'm not a builder, so what do I know.

 

[stu7878]

Listen to Uncle C.... I agree.
Look for more evidence of the whole roof slipping as that is what it looks like to me.

 

[champion7]

Sorry, but on the evidence of what I see the the roof tiles and flashing have moved out together.

Because:

a. It would be highly unprofessional to leave that large a gap between the top row of tiles and the wall.
b. The lead flashing is still neatly dressed into the contours of the tiles. If it had moved on its own to this extent this would not be the case.

But I'm not a builder, so what do I know.

I'm in agreement with Uncle C,there is a gap visible between the piece of timber and the bottom of the render which i suspect is where the flashing has come from.

 

[Shinbreath]

In response to the non believers..!

Yes, there is a large gap.. Agreed... But in order for those tiles to have slipped, the roofer would have had to have laid the last batten on and not nailed it, then hooked the tiles on to that batten. That to me seems physically impossible to do and wouldn't have lasted five minutes if that was the case, and I presume the structure has been up a little while now. I think that the roofer got his gauging of the battens wrong and just thought "sod it, the lead will cover that gap"....

Also if the rafters have slipped this would also mean that the carpenter would have not fixed them at the top and the bottom meaning that he/she would have just laid them in place. Again, this is almost impossible to believe that a carpenter would have done that because, again, the structure wouldn't have lasted five minutes.

Now just to recap. Are you saying that when the rafters were fitted they were not nailed, and when the battens were laid across the rafters they were not nailed also. And the roofer climbed on to the unfixed rafters and battens to fit the lead without the whole thing collapsing. Are you getting what I'm saying ? The timbers must have been fixed therefore the structure must be sound to some extent making the possibility of the whole thing slipping very small.

Unless the thing was built by cowboy builders in which case who knows how it was constructed !!!!!!
My diagnosis is assuming that the structure has been built, to some degree, using a fair standard of workmanship.

From what I can see, the thing doesn't look like its of a totally standard construction but I'm giving the builder the benefit of the doubt that it has been fixed fairly well and its just the lead that has slipped.

Its also difficult to tell from the photos if the lead is tight to the tiles. Yes its still looks dressed to the contours of the tile but if its slipped it will still keep that shape because lead by nature will hold that shape.

Does that all make sense ?

 

[Uncle C]

Who knows the answer from a couple of photos. I have asked bhafc99 to do a bit more investigating so when he finally comes back it may all become a bit more clear.

BTW I bet that lets in a shed load of water in bad weather.

 

[Shinbreath]

Who knows the answer from a couple of photos. I have asked bhafc99 to do a bit more investigating so when he finally comes back it may all become a bit more clear.

BTW I bet that lets in a shed load of water in bad weather.

If he ain't got an indoor pool... he has now... Especially North of the border..

Yeah, would be interesting to see what the outcome is of that one.