A question for all students, graduates and youngsters looking too go to uni

[timco]

If you were offered a scholarship at the LSE (London School of Economics for those who don't know what it stands for) would you need (or have needed for those who this is past tense) to think about it just cos it would mean giving up your part time job?

 

[ben andrews' girlfriend]

yes

 

[fatboy]

No.

I would love to have gone there but unfortunately my grades were just short.

Ideally, I would like to have gone to another Uni(non London, and with a better social life) but a degree in Economics from LSE would look great on my CV.

 

[beorhthelm]

id be tempted to give up my current *full* time job for a freebie at LSE. Its very disheartening when you see jobs specify "redbrick only need apply"

(i know its not technicall redbrick, but its of the standard)

 

[disgruntled h blocker]

Been there. Done it. Got the T-Shirt.

Graduated from the LSE in 2000.

Great Uni for learning.
Not a great uni for much else. (poor sports, social scene etc).

 

[Lord Bracknell]

Absolutely top place with a top worldwide reputation.

Take your pick from this list of LSE graduates. They seem to have done well.



Barbados

The Rt Hon Errol Walton Barrow (1920-1987)
BSc (Econ) 1950
Prime Minister 1962-1966; 1966-1976; 1986-1987

Canada

Rt Hon Pierre Trudeau (1919-2000)
Research Fee Student 1947-1948
Prime Minister 1968-1979; 1980-1984

The Rt Hon Kim Campbell (b. 1947)
PhD Student 1973
Prime Minister June-November 1993

Colombia

Dr Pumarejo Alfonso Lopez
Occasional Registration 1932-1933
President 1934-1938, 1942-1945

Denmark

HM Queen Margrethe II (b. 1940)
Occasional Student 1965
Queen 1972-

Dominica

The Hon Dame Eugenia Charles
LLM 1949
Prime Minister 1980-1995

Fiji

The Rt Hon Ratu Sir Kamisese Mara (1920-2004)
Diploma Econ & Social Admin 1962
Prime Minister 1970-1992, President 1994-2000

Ghana

Dr Kwame Nkrumah (1909-1972)
PhD 1946
First President 1960-1966

Hon Dr Hilla Limann (1934-1998)
BSc (Econ) 1960
President 1979-1981

Greece

Dr Constantine Simitis (b. 1936)
Research Fee Student 1961-1963
Prime Minister 1996-2004

India

Shri KR Narayanan
BSc (Econ) 1945-1948
President 1997-2002

Israel

Moshe Sharett (1894 -1965)
BSc (Econ) 1924
Prime Minister 1953-1955

Italy

Professor Romano Prodi (b. 1939)
Research Fee Student 1962-1963
Prime Minister 1996-1998; President of the European Commission 1999-

Jamaica

The Rt Hon Mchael Manley (1924 -1997)
BSc (Econ) 1949
Prime Minister 1972-1980; 1989-1992

The Rt Hon P J Patterson
LLB 1963
Premier 1992-

Kenya

Jomo Kenyatta (1891-1978)
ADA 1936
First President 1964-1978

Mwai Kibaki (b. 1931)
BSc Economics 1959
President 2002-

Kiribati

Anote Tong (b.1952)
MSc Sea-Use Group 1988
President 2003-

Mauritius

The Hon Sir Veerasainy Ringadoo (1920-2000)
LLB 1948
First President of Mauritius March-June 1992

The Hon Dr Navinchandra Ramgoolam (b. 1947)
LLB 1990
Prime Minister 1995-2000.

Nepal

Sher Bahadur Deuba (b. 1943)
Research Student International Relations 1988-1989
Prime Minister 1995-1997; 2001-2003; 2004-

Panama

Harmodio Arias (1886 -1962)
Occasional Student, 1909-1911
President 1932-1936

Peru

Pedro Gerardo Beltran Espanto (1897-1979)
BSc (Econ) 1918
Prime Minister 1959-1961

Beatriz Merino (b.1947)
LLM 1972
Prime Minister 2003

Singapore

Goh Keng Swee (b. 1918)
Minister of Finance, Minister of Defence, Minister of Education and Deputy Prime Minister 1959-84
BSc Economics 1951
PhD Economics 1956

St Lucia

The Rt Hon John Compton (b. 1926)
LLB 1952
Premier 1964-1979; Prime Minister Feb-Jul 1979 & 1982-1996

Taiwan

Yu Kuo-Hwa (1914-2000)
Composition Fee Student 1947-1949
Premier 1984-1989

Thailand

Thanin Kraivichien (b. 1927)
LLB 1953
Prime Minister 1976-1977

UK

Lord Attlee (1883- 1967)
Lecturer in social science and administration, 1912- 1923
Prime Minister, 1945-1951

USA

John F Kennedy (1917-1963)
General Course Student 1935
President 1961-1963

Others:-

Cherie Booth QC
Barrister
LLB 1975

Pat Barker
Author
BSc International History 1965

Rt Hon Virginia Bottomley MP
Former UK Health Secretary
MSc Social Policy and Planning 1975

Clara Furse
chief executive, London Stock Exchange
BSc 1979 Economics

Margaret Hodge MP
Minister for Children
BSc Government 1966

Mick Jagger
registered for BSc Econ 1961-1963

Jules O'Riordan (aka Judge Jules)
Radio 1 DJ
LLB 1987

Matt Osman
bass player for Suede
BSc Econ. 1989

Lord Saatchi
Advertising guru
BSc Sociology 1967

Barry Sheerman MP
Chair Education and Skills Select Committee
BSc Government 1965
MSc Government 1966

George Soros
Global Financier
BSc Econ 1951, PhD 1954


Nobel Prize Winners:-

2001: George Akerlof, Nobel Prize in Economic Sciences (jointly)

1999: Robert Mundell, Nobel Prize in Economic Sciences.

1998: Amartya Sen, Nobel Prize in Economic Sciences

1991: Ronald Coase, Nobel Prize in Economic Sciences

1990: Merton Miller, Nobel Prize in Economic Sciences

1979: Sir Arthur Lewis, Nobel Prize in Economic Sciences (jointly)

1977: James Meade, Nobel Prize in Economic Sciences (jointly)

1974: Friedrich von Hayek, Nobel Prize in Economic Sciences (jointly)

1972: Sir John Hicks, Nobel Prize in Economic Sciences (jointly)

1959: Lord Philip Noel-Baker, Nobel Peace Prize

1950: Ralph Bunche, Nobel Peace Prize

1950: Bertrand Russell, Nobel Prize in Literature

1925: George Bernard Shaw, Nobel Prize in Literature

 

[timco]

Absolutely top place with a top worldwide reputation.

Take your pick from this list of LSE graduates. They seem to have done well.



Barbados

The Rt Hon Errol Walton Barrow (1920-1987)
BSc (Econ) 1950
Prime Minister 1962-1966; 1966-1976; 1986-1987

Canada

Rt Hon Pierre Trudeau (1919-2000)
Research Fee Student 1947-1948
Prime Minister 1968-1979; 1980-1984

The Rt Hon Kim Campbell (b. 1947)
PhD Student 1973
Prime Minister June-November 1993

Colombia

Dr Pumarejo Alfonso Lopez
Occasional Registration 1932-1933
President 1934-1938, 1942-1945

Denmark

HM Queen Margrethe II (b. 1940)
Occasional Student 1965
Queen 1972-

Dominica

The Hon Dame Eugenia Charles
LLM 1949
Prime Minister 1980-1995

Fiji

The Rt Hon Ratu Sir Kamisese Mara (1920-2004)
Diploma Econ & Social Admin 1962
Prime Minister 1970-1992, President 1994-2000

Ghana

Dr Kwame Nkrumah (1909-1972)
PhD 1946
First President 1960-1966

Hon Dr Hilla Limann (1934-1998)
BSc (Econ) 1960
President 1979-1981

Greece

Dr Constantine Simitis (b. 1936)
Research Fee Student 1961-1963
Prime Minister 1996-2004

India

Shri KR Narayanan
BSc (Econ) 1945-1948
President 1997-2002

Israel

Moshe Sharett (1894 -1965)
BSc (Econ) 1924
Prime Minister 1953-1955

Italy

Professor Romano Prodi (b. 1939)
Research Fee Student 1962-1963
Prime Minister 1996-1998; President of the European Commission 1999-

Jamaica

The Rt Hon Mchael Manley (1924 -1997)
BSc (Econ) 1949
Prime Minister 1972-1980; 1989-1992

The Rt Hon P J Patterson
LLB 1963
Premier 1992-

Kenya

Jomo Kenyatta (1891-1978)
ADA 1936
First President 1964-1978

Mwai Kibaki (b. 1931)
BSc Economics 1959
President 2002-

Kiribati

Anote Tong (b.1952)
MSc Sea-Use Group 1988
President 2003-

Mauritius

The Hon Sir Veerasainy Ringadoo (1920-2000)
LLB 1948
First President of Mauritius March-June 1992

The Hon Dr Navinchandra Ramgoolam (b. 1947)
LLB 1990
Prime Minister 1995-2000.

Nepal

Sher Bahadur Deuba (b. 1943)
Research Student International Relations 1988-1989
Prime Minister 1995-1997; 2001-2003; 2004-

Panama

Harmodio Arias (1886 -1962)
Occasional Student, 1909-1911
President 1932-1936

Peru

Pedro Gerardo Beltran Espanto (1897-1979)
BSc (Econ) 1918
Prime Minister 1959-1961

Beatriz Merino (b.1947)
LLM 1972
Prime Minister 2003

Singapore

Goh Keng Swee (b. 1918)
Minister of Finance, Minister of Defence, Minister of Education and Deputy Prime Minister 1959-84
BSc Economics 1951
PhD Economics 1956

St Lucia

The Rt Hon John Compton (b. 1926)
LLB 1952
Premier 1964-1979; Prime Minister Feb-Jul 1979 & 1982-1996

Taiwan

Yu Kuo-Hwa (1914-2000)
Composition Fee Student 1947-1949
Premier 1984-1989

Thailand

Thanin Kraivichien (b. 1927)
LLB 1953
Prime Minister 1976-1977

UK

Lord Attlee (1883- 1967)
Lecturer in social science and administration, 1912- 1923
Prime Minister, 1945-1951

USA

John F Kennedy (1917-1963)
General Course Student 1935
President 1961-1963

Others:-

Cherie Booth QC
Barrister
LLB 1975

Pat Barker
Author
BSc International History 1965

Rt Hon Virginia Bottomley MP
Former UK Health Secretary
MSc Social Policy and Planning 1975

Clara Furse
chief executive, London Stock Exchange
BSc 1979 Economics

Margaret Hodge MP
Minister for Children
BSc Government 1966

Mick Jagger
registered for BSc Econ 1961-1963

Jules O'Riordan (aka Judge Jules)
Radio 1 DJ
LLB 1987

Matt Osman
bass player for Suede
BSc Econ. 1989

Lord Saatchi
Advertising guru
BSc Sociology 1967

Barry Sheerman MP
Chair Education and Skills Select Committee
BSc Government 1965
MSc Government 1966

George Soros
Global Financier
BSc Econ 1951, PhD 1954


Nobel Prize Winners:-

2001: George Akerlof, Nobel Prize in Economic Sciences (jointly)

1999: Robert Mundell, Nobel Prize in Economic Sciences.

1998: Amartya Sen, Nobel Prize in Economic Sciences

1991: Ronald Coase, Nobel Prize in Economic Sciences

1990: Merton Miller, Nobel Prize in Economic Sciences

1979: Sir Arthur Lewis, Nobel Prize in Economic Sciences (jointly)

1977: James Meade, Nobel Prize in Economic Sciences (jointly)

1974: Friedrich von Hayek, Nobel Prize in Economic Sciences (jointly)

1972: Sir John Hicks, Nobel Prize in Economic Sciences (jointly)

1959: Lord Philip Noel-Baker, Nobel Peace Prize

1950: Ralph Bunche, Nobel Peace Prize

1950: Bertrand Russell, Nobel Prize in Literature

1925: George Bernard Shaw, Nobel Prize in Literature

Not seeing a LB in there, LB!

I am probably being a little harsh on my son its not just his part time job he would have too give up if he takes this opportunity for a scholarship to the LSE (he is currently at Birmingham 2 years through a degree). He would also have to give up his degree in leisure management and do a masters in economics instead.

Oh and his cushy life at home where he pays no rent, has his own private space, buys no food and has on tap cash machine (me) and BB internet.

BAG why would you have too think about it?

 

[disgruntled h blocker]

He'll obviously need a first degree to complete the Masters at the LSE.

The Postgrad courses at the LSE are the best in the country, much better than Oxbridge ones.

 

[Bobby's Gull]

I'd stick my job in and get straight there. To good an opportunity to be missed I'd have thought?

 

[ben andrews' girlfriend]

BAG why would you have too think about it?

just really that i wouldnt have any money to play around with, and i see work as a way to have time out of study.

But if your son wants to go, let him, else he might be thinking later on about what might have happened. As LB says (and LSE's reputation) it is a world class place - with a uni like that on your cv will certainly open doors.

 

[London Irish]

The LSE is one of the most famous and prestigious universities in the world, he's be mad to turn it down. Sod the part-time job, I believe they exist outside Brum too!

 

[fatboy]

Is someone currently doing Leisure Management really suited to a masters in Economics?

 

[El Presidente]

He should go there if possible Tim, it's an excellent chance to get a good careet at the end of it, unless he has a secret ambition to be the next Mr Brittas

 

[Lord Bracknell]

Not seeing a LB in there, LB!

'fraid not, timco.

Although I DID study at LSE.

Or to be more precise, I blagged a library ticket and used a desk there for a couple of weeks to allow me to complete my bizarre Masters thesis while enjoying the free accommodation my grandmother was offering me in beautiful Rotherhithe.

 

[beorhthelm]

I am probably being a little harsh on my son its not just his part time job he would have too give up if he takes this opportunity for a scholarship to the LSE (he is currently at Birmingham 2 years through a degree). He would also have to give up his degree in leisure management and do a masters in economics instead.

Oh and his cushy life at home where he pays no rent, has his own private space, buys no food and has on tap cash machine (me) and BB internet.

eh? your actaully questioning wheather your son should do Economics at LSE compared to 'Leisure management' from some tinpot ex-poly? And shirly you want him to leave the nest and stand on his own 2 feet a bit (though he can still tap you money in london)?

id be down in London looking for a suitable bedsit for him. Or are you just subtly trying to brag about this

 

[timco]

Lets be clear about this I am not questioning it look at the original post, it is my son that is "thinking" it over one of his reasons, he would have too give up his part time job, and yes I do think its cos he sees himself as a bit of a Gordon britass!

As I understand it, and I don't claim too understand it at all, part of his leisure management degree is economics. He has just done an economics paper or something, that he did so well in this has attracted the offer from the LSE. I think it is something that is done in conjunction with Birmingham and he would only spend 12 months or so at the LSE.

MY attitude is go for it and damn the other things you can always come back too those (and jobs are available all over the place). Its an offer not made too many and he should grab it with both hands, I was just wondering if it was only me that found his need too think kinda odd.

Another attitude he has to it is, its not directly related to what he wants to do (be a Gordon brittas) and it may lead him into the type of job he does not want. (One based in an office).

My attitude get it if you don't need it you can ignore it, if you don't get it and you find it would have been useful later then u can't make it up, well you can but that's illegal!

 

[timco]

eh? your actaully questioning wheather your son should do Economics at LSE compared to 'Leisure management' from some tinpot ex-poly?

Err Birmingham a "tin pot ex polly"?

I think you have it confused with University of Central England that used too be Birmingham Polly.

Birmingham Uni is one of the oldest, (and I think its a red brick, certainly looks red when I cycle past it) uni's around.

 

[Brighton Breezy]

Birmingham may not be tin pot but it is not in the same league as LSE plus he would get to live in London which is better then Brum b miles.

I am assuming your son does not need to think about this at all really.

 

[timco]

A little correction too what I wrote earlier, see I told you I did not understand it, its not a joint thing. He would have too abandon or postpone his leisure degree too take up the opportunity. He has 2 1/2 weeks too think it over and then they are coming too see him. (not him going to see them they are travelling too Birmingham to see him) so he can interview them!

He wants too see if they will allow him to put it off for a year so he can finish his leisure degree first and so he can work like stink to get the money together needed too live in London. He still wants too be a Brittas!

For someone who is the first in my family to ever go to a uni he is not doing too badly. But I suppose now I'm working its going too cost me a small fortune isn't it!

My advice, for what it was worth has been the same as everyone elses that he has asked, he would be a fool not too take up the offer, regardless of if its something he wants to do or not.

 

[Curious Orange]

The offer of a scholarship at LSE would be too good an offer for me to pass up. That is the sort of thing on your CV that opens a LOT of doors. It would beat my degree in Business Studies from the University of Glamorgan hands down - probably even if I were to fail the LSE course!!!