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The Large One

Who's Next?
Jul 7, 2003
52,343
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Did you know this was coming? I like to think I keep an eye on the news, but I've not heard a peep. :shrug:



Police and crime commissioner candidates warn of turnout

The home secretary has been warned that the forthcoming police and crime commissioner elections could result in the lowest turnout in British history.

With 50 days until polling day, 20 candidates have sent Theresa May an open letter urging her to rethink how the elections are being run. Turnout could be "rock bottom" they say but better information on candidates and TV broadcasts could improve it.

The coalition said it had been promoting the elections for two years. And a government national advertising campaign, including television and radio adverts, is expected to launch in October.

The letter, organised by the Electoral Reform Society and published in the Daily Telegraph, says: "Police and crime commissioners want the chance to speak for local people. This will be impossible with rock bottom turnout and as the Police Federation have warned; low turnouts can also open the door to extreme candidates. All we ask is a level playing field for candidates and the chance for voters to make an informed decision."

To boost turnout in the elections - which take place on 15 November - the letter recommends including candidate information in a mass mail-out already planned by the Electoral Commission. It also says "taking to the airwaves" with TV and radio broadcasts would help raise awareness.

Finally, the letter urges the government to rule out holding "a major election in the winter again," where darker evenings are thought to put voters off going to the polling station. Signatories to the letter include former Lib Dem London mayoral candidate Brian Paddick - also a former deputy assistant commissioner in the Metropolitan Police - and Labour MP Alun Michael who is standing to be the commissioner in South Wales.

Katie Ghose, chief executive of the Electoral Reform Society, said the elections were in "serious danger of descending into a farce". She said: "The Home Office seems to think that if you build it, they will come, but this isn't how elections work.

A Home Office spokesman said: "We have been publicising PCCs and their benefits to local communities for more than two years. A national advertising campaign, including television and radio adverts, will launch in October and every registered voter will receive details of a dedicated website with information on each candidate. Those details can also be requested in written form through a free phone line which will be included on all election literature."

Alex Robertson, director of communications at the Electoral Commission, said: "The Electoral Commission will be sending a booklet with factual information to 21 million households in England and Wales from 22 October - the same day we launch our public awareness campaign. This booklet has been planned since September 2011.

"Our booklet has all the information voters need to cast their vote with confidence including what the PCC elections are for and how to vote in them. It will also contain details of the government's candidate information website and telephone number where voters can request printed information about candidates."
 






daveinprague

New member
Oct 1, 2009
12,572
Prague, Czech Republic
I knew about it, but only because Kevin Carroll, the wanker who is no2 in the EDL is standing as police commissioner in Bedforshire.
 


fataddick

Well-known member
Feb 6, 2004
1,602
The seaside.
Yep aware of it. Brighton isn't having one afaik. The deputy leader of the EDL is standing for it in Luton... can see that working out well :(
 








Westdene Seagull

aka Cap'n Carl Firecrotch
NSC Patron
Oct 27, 2003
21,397
The arse end of Hangleton
I knew about it but won't bother voting - a complete waste of time and money and trying to follow the American model.
 






Lady Whistledown

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Jul 7, 2003
47,499
Can't see the point of it myself, it's supposed to make the decision making more publicly accountable, but it's just going to end up being a political point-scoring exercise like everything else. It just seems to be an attempt by the Government to make it look like they're doing something to tackle crime and disorder, when in reality it'll just be a case of "as you were". Reshuffling the deck chairs on the Titanic etc.
 


Cheshire Cat

The most curious thing..
Can't see the point of it myself, it's supposed to make the decision making more publicly accountable, but it's just going to end up being a political point-scoring exercise like everything else. It just seems to be an attempt by the Government to make it look like they're doing something to tackle crime and disorder, when in reality it'll just be a case of "as you were". Reshuffling the deck chairs on the Titanic etc.
That's your new boss you're talking about !!!!
 






Lady Whistledown

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Jul 7, 2003
47,499
That's your new boss you're talking about !!!!


Well. He or she will select my boss, if they deem it necessary. The entire country is completely "meh" about it. It's the sort of post that appeals only to politicians who are looking for a nice retirement job (or who fear losing their seats at the next general election), or to attention-seeking local "celebrities" who are desperate to get their names in the papers. Katie Price was talking about applying at one stage, FFS.
 


Cheshire Cat

The most curious thing..
I remember all the 1980s American cop shows with the good honest upright officers and the sleazy corrupt politico commissioner.
 


ROSM

Well-known member
Dec 26, 2005
6,578
Just far enough away from LDC
Party politics should have no part in the election of a police commissioner. Vote Independent.

But just how independent is the independent candidate? The so called independent standing in Sussex is actually backed by the Greens
 




Cheshire Cat

The most curious thing..
Well. He or she will select my boss, if they deem it necessary. The entire country is completely "meh" about it. It's the sort of post that appeals only to politicians who are looking for a nice retirement job (or who fear losing their seats at the next general election), or to attention-seeking local "celebrities" who are desperate to get their names in the papers. Katie Price was talking about applying at one stage, FFS.
That's true but its also dangerous because the commissioners will have alot of power over policing and how it is done locally - personally I wouldn't vote for one if you paid me (oopps what a giveaway).
 


happypig

Staring at the rude boys
May 23, 2009
8,114
Eastbourne
The reality of it is, though, that most people will vote along party lines, so Katy Bourne will be the Sussex commissioner.
 


Westdene Seagull

aka Cap'n Carl Firecrotch
NSC Patron
Oct 27, 2003
21,397
The arse end of Hangleton
Party politics should have no part in the election of a police commissioner. Vote Independent.

Alternatively, don't vote at all and let's get the turnout in single figures percentage wise !
 


Tory Boy

Active member
Jun 14, 2004
971
Brighton
The Police will finally be held to account by someone we can choose to not re-elect if they don't.

The Police don't like it because they are at last going to be made accountable.

Anyone know who the last Chair of the Police Authority was?

Thankfully he wont be the new P&CC.

TB
 




Tory Boy

Active member
Jun 14, 2004
971
Brighton
Well. He or she will select my boss, if they deem it necessary. The entire country is completely "meh" about it. It's the sort of post that appeals only to politicians who are looking for a nice retirement job (or who fear losing their seats at the next general election), or to attention-seeking local "celebrities" who are desperate to get their names in the papers. Katie Price was talking about applying at one stage, FFS.
Not sure I agree with that.

The Tory candidate is a Councillor in a very safe seat, and she doesn't need a nice retirement job.

I'm also guessing your comments wont relate to the Green candidate.

Sadly, all too often, the Police are acting as judge and jury in relation to out of court disposals.

Hopefully the new P&CC will stop such abuses.

TB
 




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