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Population size has nothing to do with urbanisation or population density. If 10 people live on 10 sqm its the same density as 100 people living on 100 sqm.

The article is factually wrong. England is not a more urbanised country than Sweden is, which is wrong. It also uses Bozza's favorite argument, "population density", without taking into account that massive parts of Sweden are simply not populated. Taking Norrland into the equation is like...

Yes. We changed from the herd immunity stuff to a strategy very similar to everyones else and its still going shit. How is this proof that the herd immunity thing was any more of a failure than the current lockdown-esque strategy? If anything it proves it really doesnt matter what you do, this...

Well, we are as strict as anyone these days and it apparently makes no difference whatsoever. A lot of countries that has taken very strong measures, like Austria and Belgium, are also suffering. Relaxed rules like in the spring = poor result, harsh rules like no = poor result. I hope some of...

Some are happy some are not happy, but the majority is in the "I dont really know" category which is pretty much the only realistic one.

Bunch of quotes taken out of context. "25 leading scientists"... most of them '' got absolutely nothing to do with viruses. "25 leading scientists".. who said 100 000 were going to die before the summer. and as usual, conveniently ignoring the lockdown countries with more deaths per 100k...

If you look through this thread you'll find that a vast majority does not speak of Swedish success, rather the reverse. As for "preserving life" it depends on how you define it and as for the economy there is no certain way of telling, but since our economy is more dependent on global growth...

Since you posted the article where Time is selling the idea that the Swedish strategy (social distancing) is causing "nothing but death and misery" I think its quite easy to imagine that you are an advocate of harsher measures (lockdown).

I suppose you two are in a self-imposed lockdown rather than following "the Swedish model" (social distancing)? Or are you hypocrites agreeing that the so called Swedish strategy causes death and misery, yet carry on with social distancing rather than locking yourself up in your houses, only...

Sorry to disturb your interesting conversation but I would like to comment re: the economic impact on Sweden compared to other countries as there are some baseless claims here from both sides ("look, they economically fared no better than i.e Denmark" and "but their economy is expected to...

I enjoy drinking beer with both gentlemen and nutters, no need to pick.

Yes yes, I get it, you trust one bunch of guys and Albion Dan trust another bunch of guys. You trust yours since they "get to stand next to Presidents and Prime Ministers", and he probably trust his because they dont get to stand next to Presidents and Prime Ministers. I'm sure this and a lot...

So... The TLDR of what you are saying is: "There are some people - like you - who are in love with their own perspectives and think that a lot of other people are brainwashed. However, I love my perspectives and think that these other people - like you - are brainwashed". Now back to Albion...

Not very relevant, but nope, not all rosy

Of course we didnt have growth. Our economy is very dependant on other countries thriving. If the world is doing bad, we are doing bad. We export building material and shit, unlike i.e. the Danes who mainly export pharmaceuticals and food. No shit they are doing better during a pandemic. The...

I dont see scientists seeing deaths as numbers as a/my problem, its pretty much their job in this case.

I dont think thats my problem. I dont even think it is a problem.

Its not about making something ok or not ok, its about finding scientific answers.

There is absolutely no proof that we would have significantly less deaths with a lockdown. There is also no proof that the economy of New Zeeland would be better off without a lockdown. Its all far more complex than that.

Tegnell pointed out something interesting the other day: According to a report from WHO (feel free to find it, someone) there is a strong correleation between having unusually few influenza deaths the last 2-3 years and having a lot of Covid deaths this spring. Simply because that the normal...