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No I really did say we still pay NHI, which gives us all a stake in the business.

No, you give them guidelines on how to run it. If we still pay in, we still have a voice. Govt. sets their tasks and they run by it.

No mate, I didn't, I said still pay our NHS. That gives a budget, the company then knows what they have to play with. The NHS is still a company, even if in public hands, it still has a budget, it still knows what it has to play with. Unfortunately, Govt. have no clue how to run a business...

Despite the past couple of years, the trains are a much better option than they were 30 years ago.

I'd pay (cannot really afford it but...) to opt out of the NHS.

Who decides on budgets and inventions in private businesses? I don't get your argument.

My girlfriend is an admin in the NHS, so I have a teeny bit of inside knowledge. I worked for the MoJ for four years so I know the machinations of the civil service. It is nothing about being a vital job and all about keeping employment figures up. This is why I am saying take it out of...

What about losing around 2/3's of admin, which, at the end of the day throttles the NHS coffers, like everything Govt.

Carillion was never in the public sector, totally wrong argument.

So, we all have opinions, what do you think, what does anyone think, we should do for the NHS?

Much like you, no. And if a thread doesn't float yer boat, do one, easy really.

Much of it is privatised anyway. Why don't we just rid ourselves of politicians and make a proper go of it? This NHS under the Govt. is lost in the 1940s, they have no idea how to run, what is essentially, a business, people's health is a business, like it or hate it. Would we not be better off...

Is it time to get rid, bring in a firm that can run our health system? Or should we stick with politicians that use it like a political football whilst people die? We could make it private with systems in hand to make it a proper health institution, or we could leave it as a political football...

I agree totally, we are a a steadfast club that doesn't do knee jerking.

I remember these threads in L1, when we were desperate to stay in that league. We have moved on, quite spectacularly, but we still have idiots on here needing to be a drama queen. I think these threads are more about them than our club.

Talking of football grounds that are a pain in the arse to get to... Watford is a complete arse!

He said we have a lot of attacking options that should keep us up, be nice to score a goal though.

Michael Thomas' nap for the drop, Goals on Sunday. Agree?

To be fair mate, we did actually show a bit yesterday?

GT49er is quite right, we should have had more from the game. Baaaaaaaaaaaah ooops moooooooooo