[Football] What Is The First Division/Premier League Of Your Lifetime ?

Eeyore · Saturday at 2:32 PM

The debate concerning what constitutes a 'big club' is often settled by emotions, bias and prejudice. But setting aside the last two, if there were 22 slots available (as in the old times) what would be the Division One, based on your life experience and feelings, that would feel the most 'right' to you ?

It's a difficult one as many of us have lived longer than others. But once done I may put together a table of tables.

The only criteria is that teams are ranked in what you perceive as final positions and Brighton cannot be included (but state if you would have put us in there and where had you been a neutral)

Sorrel · Saturday at 2:42 PM

Very much a late 1970s/early 1980s bias there.

Simster · Saturday at 2:46 PM

West Ham have spent most of their time in the top flight, with fleeting relegations. They belong in the top flight more than at least 6 of those clubs. They are the only club I'd argue actively on behalf of.

Clubs like Sheffield Weds, Birmingham and Stoke would also all have a case, but are much easier to argue against than West Ham.

Hovegull · Saturday at 2:57 PM

Bolton, Blackburn, Charlton, Wigan, QPR and Portsmouth featured well in the 90s/00s

Bozza · Saturday at 2:58 PM

Eeyore said:
The debate concerning what constitutes a 'big club' is often settled by emotions, bias and prejudice. But setting aside the last two, if there were 22 slots available (as in the old times) what would be the Division One, based on your life experience and feelings, that would feel the most 'right' to you.

It's a difficult one as many of us have lived longer than others. But once done I may put together a table of tables.

The only criteria is that teams are ranked in what you perceive as final positions and Brighton cannot be included (but state if you would have put us in there and where had you been a neutral)

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An interesting additional question would be:

What position (out of 92) would you place the Albion in?

Eeyore · Saturday at 2:59 PM

Simster said:
West Ham have spent most of their time in the top flight, with fleeting relegations. They belong in the top flight more than at least 6 of those clubs.

They are the only club I'd argue actively on behalf of. Clubs like Sheffield Weds, Birmingham and Stoke would also all have a case, but are much easier to argue against than West Ham.

My point is that emotionally I don't see them that way. The list is based on a form of subjection, but taking out bias and prejudice. I'm an Un-Chelsea fan and I'm not keen on United, but they had to take their respective places.

zefarelly · Saturday at 3:00 PM

Bozza said:
An interesting additional question would be:

What position (out of 92) would you place the Albion in?

the answers 42 Shirley

Preston and Burnely probably above a few on the first list historically

Eeyore · Saturday at 3:01 PM

Bozza said:
An interesting additional question would be:

What position (out of 92) would you place the Albion in?

I really don't know. I still see us as a third division team done well. I quite like holding that as well. Keeps me humble about things.

Eeyore · Saturday at 3:02 PM

zefarelly said:
the answers 42 Shirley

Preston and Burnely probably above a few on the first list historically

Yeah, but folk are missing the exercise here. It's not about crude rankings, it's about how you feel about teams based on your own life.

Sorrel · Saturday at 3:04 PM

zefarelly said:
the answers 42 Shirley

Preston and Burnely probably above a few on the first list historically

It's actually 43: https://footballrates.com/alltimetable.html

Hovegull · Saturday at 3:04 PM

Bozza said:
An interesting additional question would be:

What position (out of 92) would you place the Albion in?

Above Brentford but below QPR

Flounce · Saturday at 3:09 PM

zefarelly said:
the answers 42 Shirley

Preston and Burnely probably above a few on the first list historically

My first memories of football are Burnley being a top team and the Spurs team of 60/61 when I jumped on the bandwagon as a very young kid. I stayed as a Spurs fan until I moved to Brighton and Peter Ward gave me a life sentence

The first game I remember listening to commentary on was the 1962 Cup final between Burnley and Spurs (I had to google the year!)

Eeyore · Saturday at 3:13 PM

Sorrel said:
It's actually 43: https://footballrates.com/alltimetable.html

I don't think that's a good barometer. West Ham and Ipswich Town are 66th and 72nd. This is because of the time they spent struggling in the top flight.

Best criteria is average finishes.

Sorrel · Saturday at 3:28 PM

Eeyore said:
I don't think that's a good barometer. West Ham and Ipswich Town are 66th and 72nd. This is because of the time they spent struggling in the top flight.

Best criteria is average finishes.

I know what you mean - but then there is the problem of equalising out the leagues. Here's someone's attempt: http://alltimeleaguetable.co.uk/

Herr Tubthumper · Saturday at 3:44 PM

Sorrel said:
It's actually 43: https://footballrates.com/alltimetable.html

Strange table as it’s cumulative points. I’d be more interested in knowing our average league position

Albion my Albion · Saturday at 4:07 PM

zefarelly said:
the answers 42 Shirley

Preston and Burnely probably above a few on the first list historically

Nope, the answer is Brighton 4 - 0 Oppo

What else?

zefarelly · Saturday at 8:52 PM

Hovegull said:
Above Brentford but below QPR

Acton?

Harry Wilson's tackle · Saturday at 8:58 PM

Liverpool
Manchester City
Aston Villa
Chelsea
Arsenal
Newcastle United
Fulham
Nottingham Forest
Tottenham Hotspur
Manchester United
Brentford
AFC Bournemouth
West Ham United
Leicester City
Crystal Palace
Ipswich Town
Southampton
Everton
Wolverhampton Wanderers
Leeds
Leeds
Leeds

Han Solo · Saturday at 8:59 PM

Herr Tubthumper said:
Strange table as it’s cumulative points. I’d be more interested in knowing our average league position

42.6 is the average Brighton position out of the 92 over the last 97 seasons.

kojak · Saturday at 9:19 PM

My memory tells me football started in 1971 and finished around 1987
Anything before or after that is very foggy
With that in mind

1 Liverpool
2 Everton
3 Forest
4 Villa
5 Utd
6 Arsenal
7 Spurs
8 Ipswich
9 Leeds
10 West Ham
11 Derby County
12 QPR
13 WBA
14 Wolves
15 Stoke City
16 Oxford
17 Norwich
18 Watford
19 Sunderland
20 City

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