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Guinness Boy

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Seems Beth was Crawley captain last season, so she has strong links to the club


Wow.

Imagine being that angry at a club whose women's team probably part funded your own football career.
 


Eric the meek

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She can be both. From the earlier discussion it sounds like she is works with the coaching team, not as a one of their coaches.
Do you think she is coaching Crawley ladies to deliberately injure players in rival teams? Her ill-judged tweet would suggest so.
 


Bozza

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Do you think she is coaching Crawley ladies to deliberately injure players in rival teams? Her ill-judged tweet would suggest so.

She has removed the Crawley Town coach bit from her X bio, and her LinkedIn account is mysteriously no longer accessible.

Unfortunately for Beth, the horse has long since bolted.

I'm not one to join the virtual pile-on, but there are a lot of people who want some action after that very ill-judged tweet.
 




Man of Harveys

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kevo

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The only thing I'd say in Beth's defence is that she's only 19 - and at that age we all do stupid stuff. But as a senior women's player and a community foundation coach, I don't understand what she was thinking by posting that (and doubling down with a follow up tweet). She has now deleted it and the Crawley coach reference from her bio, but it would be good if she actually apologised.
 


Mellor 3 Ward 4

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At last a sensible post and not the hysterical over reaction from so many melts on here
A premier league team comes up against a league one side and shock ,horror it's a little to physical and they're actually putting themselves about .Its interesting the Brighton manager said before the game he was treating it like a Premier league match ,well league one teams aren't Premier league and will be more physical because the difference in standard between the players is very noticeable.
Crawley played some good football but the movement of the ball from Brighton players was so quick and at times the Crawley players were struggling to keep up with it .Its why there was some shitt pulling and a few late tackles ..Take away the Jay Williams tackle on O Riley ,which was a bad challenge,it wasn't an overly dirty match .Even the red card wasn't that bad ,the Brighton player was up on his feet in 20 seconds and shrugged it off .
Jay Williams is an aggressive tackler ,he plays like that most of the time ,In your face ,letting the opposition know he's there etc etc .Doesn't mean the challenge was ok ,but don't use that to slag off the whole team ,fans and as usual the town itself ....As I say there were a few tired tackles and pulls and tugs because as Crawley players tired the Brighton players went up a gear and the movement and quick passing was the difference between premier league players and league one /two players.

As for the Brighton fans ,Jesus ,do they take sleeping tablets before they go to games .
Did the noisier ones stay at home for this game .Funny lot of supporters ,seems a very middle class vibe and happy clappy feel about the place .
I won't even talk about the trains ,jesus ,no wonder you lot are so quiet ,to busy planning wondering if you need to leave 20 minutes early to avoid the wait .
I won't wish you well for the season nor will I hope you tumble back to the championship,where you really do belong because for all the melts on here trying to get some kind of rivalry started Crawley just aren't interested , Brighton have never been on the radar in the town and never will be ,not untill you eventually slip down the leagues and we get to play you more often.
Oh ,sort the parking out in Brighton and tidy up London Road and do something with the graffiti and replace the pebbled beach with sand blah.blah ,blah.
What a ****

Your rivals are Horsham - much more your level.
 






hart's shirt

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She has removed the Crawley Town coach bit from her X bio, and her LinkedIn account is mysteriously no longer accessible.

Unfortunately for Beth, the horse has long since bolted.

I'm not one to join the virtual pile-on, but there are a lot of people who want some action after that very ill-judged tweet.
Quite so.

At the risk of over-thinking, I see a potential danger for us here of the narrative being conveniently switched to false accusations of online misogyny and 'hounded off the internet' to avoid individual blame.

Media outlets have a reputation for avoiding context and nuance for the sake of controversy and headlines, e.g. BAME managers after Hughton was sacked.

Let's continue to play the ball - the tweet concerned - rather than the man, or in this case woman. Losing the moral high ground with mere insults would be a bad trade for us.

Social media is still media. She should be held to account for what she posted, regardless of whether it's been since deleted or not through fear or regret.

Action should be taken.
 


Eric the meek

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She has removed the Crawley Town coach bit from her X bio, and her LinkedIn account is mysteriously no longer accessible.

Unfortunately for Beth, the horse has long since bolted.

I'm not one to join the virtual pile-on, but there are a lot of people who want some action after that very ill-judged tweet.
Social media blunders are laying waste to so many people's careers in football. All they had to do was think first, and then tweet/post (or not) a bit later.

But as you say, the horse has bolted, and is standing in a field in the next county.
 




Mellor 3 Ward 4

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Making excuses for the thuggery of your football is a bad look. "Oh but we’re only a little club in a lower division — we can’t help the way we behave…". The Grimsby team and fans were great when they came here in the FA Cup, so don’t give me that bollocks.

And with the dismal exception of Palace, your fans are the absolute worst I can remember at the Amex in years. Pissed-up kids making fools of themselves on the trains and outside the ground like it was their big annual day out at the seaside away from their parents. I’m an old bloke, nearly 70, but was goaded by a bunch of your thugs before the match for doing nothing worse than sitting down, having a coffee and reading the programme. Have a bit of class FFS.
Highly unlikely if they were from Crawley.
 


elgordohill

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I think some of you need to have a cup of tea a calm down.

This young lady didn’t make the tackle; she isn’t responsible for the injury and she has obviously realised that she has made a mistake and deleted her tweet.

The victimisation of her is very strange. Is it because she is a woman that people are upset about. I’m sure there may have been plenty of tweets that upset people, from males, that haven’t been highlighted.

As I said, she has deleted the tweet. Do people really think she should lose her job because of one comment? If you are honest you hear (and dare I say, have said yourself) stuff that offends opposition fans every week.
 


Stato

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As for the Brighton fans ,Jesus ,do they take sleeping tablets before they go to games .
Did the noisier ones stay at home for this game .Funny lot of supporters ,seems a very middle class vibe and happy clappy feel about the place .
Had you considered that for Brighton fans, this wasn't a particularly interesting game?

Tickets were reduced to £15 to fill the ground and most of us were there mainly to take a look at our second string. It was a bonus that we were going to get to see one of the new signings, but that didn't last long. It's fairly ridiculous to expect a hostile atmosphere for a midweek game against a traditionally non-league local team that the Albion have no history with. I guess that 'middle class vibe' is intended to mean that the ground wasn't full of drunk blokes. There seemed to be quite a lot of families there for an evening game, presumably because the reduced prices and summer holidays made this possible. Crawley fans seem to have arrived expecting, possibly hoping, to be treated like an invasion of Millwall hordes. There was quite a lot of posturing that was met with puzzlement more than aggression. We didn't join in the panto. If that's what you define as middle class, then guilty as charged.

I can't make my mind up whether Williams' challenge was so bad because the ball was moved more quickly than he is capable of dealing with, whether it was the result of him being hyped up to stick in a reducer at the start of a big game or a combination of the two. Crawley fans seem to be overly hyped for a game that was always going to be out of their team's reach, turning out in numbers larger than were in their home ground for the opening game of the season, so perhaps the atmosphere got to him.

In terms of the game, Crawley fans were were singing the usual about the opponent's support being 'f'ng sht', if we weren't too 'middle class' to retort, the same could have been sung about the Crawley strikers. Tactically you were fine, moved the ball into attacking spaces and dominated possession, but as the game went on, it did seem more and more like Arthur's fight with the Black Knight in 'Monty Python & the Holy Grail', pointless aggression from an already decimated opponent. Crawley's manager seemed overly proud of his team given that they hardly made a decent chance, lost 4-0 and could have conceded more (would have done if the ref had given the straight red for the correct tackle). All in all, although I usually think the phrase smacks of elitism, the actions of Crawley fans, players and coaches just seem to beg for the classic old response, 'You've had your cup final, now f_ off.'
 
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Thunder Bolt

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The only thing I'd say in Beth's defence is that she's only 19 - and at that age we all do stupid stuff. But as a senior women's player and a community foundation coach, I don't understand what she was thinking by posting that (and doubling down with a follow up tweet). She has now deleted it and the Crawley coach reference from her bio, but it would be good if she actually apologised.
We do stupid stuff at that age but we also faced the consequences of being stupid, which is how we grew up.
 


Bodian

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I think some of you need to have a cup of tea a calm down.

This young lady didn’t make the tackle; she isn’t responsible for the injury and she has obviously realised that she has made a mistake and deleted her tweet.

The victimisation of her is very strange. Is it because she is a woman that people are upset about. I’m sure there may have been plenty of tweets that upset people, from males, that haven’t been highlighted.

As I said, she has deleted the tweet. Do people really think she should lose her job because of one comment? If you are honest you hear (and dare I say, have said yourself) stuff that offends opposition fans every week.
Maybe. But we, and the others you refer to, aren't connected to, and partly employed by the club concerned.
 


Eric the meek

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I think some of you need to have a cup of tea a calm down.

This young lady didn’t make the tackle; she isn’t responsible for the injury and she has obviously realised that she has made a mistake and deleted her tweet.

The victimisation of her is very strange. Is it because she is a woman that people are upset about. I’m sure there may have been plenty of tweets that upset people, from males, that haven’t been highlighted.

As I said, she has deleted the tweet. Do people really think she should lose her job because of one comment? If you are honest you hear (and dare I say, have said yourself) stuff that offends opposition fans every week.
She is a community coach at Crawley. She celebrated the deliberate injury of another player. Do you not see the implication?
 


Thunder Bolt

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I think some of you need to have a cup of tea a calm down.

This young lady didn’t make the tackle; she isn’t responsible for the injury and she has obviously realised that she has made a mistake and deleted her tweet.

The victimisation of her is very strange. Is it because she is a woman that people are upset about. I’m sure there may have been plenty of tweets that upset people, from males, that haven’t been highlighted.

As I said, she has deleted the tweet. Do people really think she should lose her job because of one comment? If you are honest you hear (and dare I say, have said yourself) stuff that offends opposition fans every week.
As a woman, I say, yes, she should be fined or even lose her job.
Doing wrong is not a ‘mistake’, it is a decision. She should apologise at the very least. She’s supposed to be a role model as a community coach.
 






hart's shirt

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I think some of you need to have a cup of tea a calm down.

This young lady didn’t make the tackle; she isn’t responsible for the injury and she has obviously realised that she has made a mistake and deleted her tweet.

The victimisation of her is very strange. Is it because she is a woman that people are upset about. I’m sure there may have been plenty of tweets that upset people, from males, that haven’t been highlighted.

As I said, she has deleted the tweet. Do people really think she should lose her job because of one comment? If you are honest you hear (and dare I say, have said yourself) stuff that offends opposition fans every week.
Please see my post of #190 earlier.

She should be held to account with that tweet. She made the decision to post it. No-one forced her. Any apologism here is risible.

And nobody's victimizing her. Stop trying to create a narrative here that isn't true.

She's not the victim. And she shouldn't get away with it because she happens to be a woman.

There's your equality.
 


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