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[Politics] The 2024 US Election - Trump v Harris
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And clean the kitchen…
Let him cook first. He can clean up the mess later.
Oh man, I was cooking alright. I just had the thought that so many so called "Republican" women are now so pissed off at Trump & Vance that they will tell their husbands that they will vote for the Republican ticket but when they actually get in the voting booth or fill out their ballot at home these women will vote for Harris/Walz and never tell a soul who they actually voted for.
How do you know your wife isn't secretly voting for Harris/Walz?
How do you know your wife isn't secretly voting for Harris/Walz?
women secretly voting for Harris/Walz.
‘We’re happy again’: Harris and Walz bring new enthusiasm to presidential race in Nevada - The Nevada Independent
Harris and Walz inject fresh energy into Nevada's presidential race, reigniting voter enthusiasm. Explore how their campaign is shaping the 2024 election landscape.
Saturday’s rally — an hourslong affair at UNLV’s Thomas & Mack Center that was bigger (and louder) than any Nevada event held by Biden — captured the wave of enthusiasm that has supercharged the Harris campaign in recent weeks.
In the first three weeks after Biden’s exit, the Harris campaign in Nevada recruited more than 10,500 volunteers, up from the roughly 2,500 volunteers recruited the three weeks prior. In that same period, the Harris campaign’s paid organizing program for high school students (which is predominantly Latino) saw a 1,400 percent increase in applications compared to the three weeks prior to Biden’s exit.
And at Saturday’s rally — the biggest political event in Nevada in recent memory, even with about 4,000 people prevented entry for heat-related
concerns — the campaign recruited more than 5,000 volunteer shift sign ups, the highest number of shift sign ups at any Harris campaign event to date, an official said. Of these sign ups, 1,000 were for events held Sunday.
The momentum has shown up in other ways — Harris has posted better numbers in national and Nevada polls than Biden, and more elected officials are on board, with Nevada’s entire Democratic congressional delegation speaking at Saturday’s rally, which had not happened during Biden’s visits to Nevada this cycle.
At an event Friday at the Clark County Republican Party offices, Nevada GOP Chair Michael McDonald attacked Harris and Walz as being “the most liberal, dangerously liberal people ever to run for this office.” He accused Harris of being responsible for the surge in border crossings and called Walz “gutless” for his response in the aftermath of the police killing of George Floyd in 2020.
Many rally attendees who spoke with The Nevada Independent said they typically aren’t active politically (some noted that this was their first political rally), but were excited enough about the Harris-Walz ticket to wait in the triple-digit heat for hours.
In the first three weeks after Biden’s exit, the Harris campaign in Nevada recruited more than 10,500 volunteers, up from the roughly 2,500 volunteers recruited the three weeks prior. In that same period, the Harris campaign’s paid organizing program for high school students (which is predominantly Latino) saw a 1,400 percent increase in applications compared to the three weeks prior to Biden’s exit.
And at Saturday’s rally — the biggest political event in Nevada in recent memory, even with about 4,000 people prevented entry for heat-related
concerns — the campaign recruited more than 5,000 volunteer shift sign ups, the highest number of shift sign ups at any Harris campaign event to date, an official said. Of these sign ups, 1,000 were for events held Sunday.
The momentum has shown up in other ways — Harris has posted better numbers in national and Nevada polls than Biden, and more elected officials are on board, with Nevada’s entire Democratic congressional delegation speaking at Saturday’s rally, which had not happened during Biden’s visits to Nevada this cycle.
At an event Friday at the Clark County Republican Party offices, Nevada GOP Chair Michael McDonald attacked Harris and Walz as being “the most liberal, dangerously liberal people ever to run for this office.” He accused Harris of being responsible for the surge in border crossings and called Walz “gutless” for his response in the aftermath of the police killing of George Floyd in 2020.
Many rally attendees who spoke with The Nevada Independent said they typically aren’t active politically (some noted that this was their first political rally), but were excited enough about the Harris-Walz ticket to wait in the triple-digit heat for hours.
Trumps attack on Tim Walz debunked.
And Trump has trouble rocking him having previously appointed him to committees when he was in power and being on record for praising him as a great operator.
amp.cnn.com
And Trump has trouble rocking him having previously appointed him to committees when he was in power and being on record for praising him as a great operator.
Fact check: Debunking Trump attack on Walz, Minnesota schools say they don’t provide tampons in boys’ bathrooms | CNN Politics
A variety of Minnesota public school districts say they do not provide tampons in boys’ bathrooms — debunking a claim former President Donald Trump has been making about Gov. Tim Walz, the Democratic vice presidential candidate.
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I just don't understand how Trump is allowed to make stuff up again and again and not be punished for it. It's outright lying.
And then, irony of ironies, to claim that everything said about him is "fake news".
It seems very wrong.
And then, irony of ironies, to claim that everything said about him is "fake news".
It seems very wrong.
- Oct 20, 2022
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Whether Harris is winning over white women is key to her winning the election and in that respect, women’s health is particularly a major issue since Roe - v - Wade was reversed. So is seeing how her campaign is gathering momentum.
White women didn’t vote for Clinton in 2016 despite Clinton getting a larger share of the overall women’s vote than Trump (Clinton overwhelmingly had the Black women’s vote), and most white women again did not vote against Trump in 2020 by supporting a Biden/Harris ticket. White women represents 40% of the electorate - a big chunk Harris needs to win over from Trump if America is to have it’s first female President.
Tim Walz may actually be the key for the Dems to win over white women.
I’m being too oblique.
Whether Harris is winning over white women is key to her winning the election and in that respect, women’s health is particularly a major issue since Roe - v - Wade was reversed. So is seeing how her campaign is gathering momentum.
White women didn’t vote for Clinton in 2016 despite Clinton getting a larger share of the overall women’s vote than Trump (Clinton overwhelmingly had the Black women’s vote), and most white women again did not vote against Trump in 2020 by supporting a Biden/Harris ticket. White women represents 40% of the electorate - a big chunk Harris needs to win over from Trump if America is to have it’s first female President.
Tim Walz may actually be the key for the Dems to win over white women.
I know what it’s about, I just don’t know why it isn’t in the US Election thread.
I agree with you btw.
Also, as is the case with a lot of his false statements, they are not merely lies they are also slanderous, libelous and defamatory, so I don't know why those who he is making those dishonest remarks about don't seek legal redress to counter them, as it would carry more weight if they were debunked in a court of law and he would also be held punitively accountable for them, as he was in in the E Jean Carroll case when $83m costs were awarded against him just for defamation, not the assault.
If his remarks are demonstrated to be both dishonest and injurious, as they could easily be if he is damaging the reputation and credibility of his opponents then I think those people should hold him to account. He shouldn't be allowed to get away with it. He should face consequences.
- Oct 20, 2022
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Ah - maybe it was posted elsewhere when you commented and subsequently moved by mods because this is the US Election thread.
Good article this morning BBC online
After years of doubt, Kamala Harris becomes Democrats' leader
Many in the party never thought she would be a viable presidential candidate, but that didn't stop her from preparing.
www.bbc.co.uk
tedebear
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Agree completely. My concern and it happened here in the UK, is that much of what he says is being shown by mainstream media without any caveat or statement that it actually needs fact checking or to your point is slander and libel. It then gets repeated on social media by his minions and arse lickers and for lots of people it becomes truth. I get that the media want to report the news, and maybe what comes out of his mouth is "news" but this inadvertently normalises it, and makes it appear like slander and libel are not punishable anymore they are just normal.
We see here in the UK, there was quite a bit of it around Brexit time. Its on a vastly worse scale in the US.
Trump is relying on mainstream media repeating his ridiculous waffle and normalising its distribution to people who are disenfranchised. Scary times.
rogersix
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and you don't foresee any potential issues with a personality like that as leader of the free world?
Greg Bobkin
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He's been like this probably his entire life. I saw a few bits from his latest rambling speech last night, where he was claiming credit for a load of shit that had nothing to do with him and just talking utter nonsense. He really IS the old man in the race now.
He also went off on one about 'men' beating women in the Olympic boxing. I'm not getting into that particular binfest, but he stated that they had transitioned, which clearly they hadn't.
He also, for some bizarre reason, went into claim he was better looking than Harris. He is, at the risk of repeating myself again, a very, very odd bloke.
When has there ever been one subject kept to one thread on NSC?
I believe there were 2 prediction threads for the Everton match.
Trump Mercilessly Mocked Over Frighteningly False Tariffs Claim
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Mark Cuban joined a number of critics who mocked Donald Trump on Saturday after the Republican presidential nominee’s false claim that imposing tariffs doesn’t “affect our country.”
The former president, in a meandering speech at a campaign rally, pledged to impose tariffs on foreign-made products from China and other countries in order to bring jobs “back home” in an effort to take in “billions and billions of dollars.”
“A tariff is a tax on a foreign country, that’s the way it is whether you like it or not. A lot of people like to say, ‘Oh, it’s a tax on us.’ No, no, no,” Trump told the crowd at the rally in Wilkes-Barre, Pennsylvania.
He later continued, “It’s a tax on a country that’s ripping us off and stealing our jobs. And it’s a tax that doesn’t affect our country.”
Trump has previously pushed the false claim on tariffs despite multiple media outlets noting that American consumers and industries have bore much of the cost of his tariffs.
Several economists recently told Newsweek that Trump’s tariffs proposal would raise prices for U.S. consumers and such a plan would hurt American companies, as well.