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[Albion] Everton vs Brighton & Hove Albion *** Official Match Thread ***



Weststander

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Back home, great day out and the fun is back. God knows it wasn't towards the end of last season but, but we got a bit lucky today. If the Penalty gets given, it's a different game and they missed a boat load in the first 20 minutes. Everton are shit.

Central midfield won't work against better teams, Weiffer was awful first 20 mins and Milner isn't the answer. On the flip side the front 4 was absolutely scintillating at times. Minteh looks brilliant and Mitoma back is like a new player. Wellbeck was probably MOM.

We could win or lose 3-0 next week. No idea.


Not remotely anything like a pen. Calvert-Diver trod on Dunk, then incredibly for an athlete …. dived.
 




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Lineker: "It was the way they played in the wide areas..."
Shearer: "Watch the way he (Mitoma) drives through winning the ball...the turnover I thought from Brighton was magnificent..."
Hart: "Brighton provided so many options for the strikers..."

Plenty of praise from Shearer for Albion's width provided from Minteh, Mitoma and Adingra, and the "torrid" time that it caused Everton.

Well done MOTD.
 


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Lineker: "It was the way they played in the wide areas..."
Shearer: "Watch the way he (Mitoma) drives through winning the ball...the turnover I thought from Brighton was magnificent..."
Hart: "Brighton provided so many options for the strikers..."

Plenty of praise from Shearer for Albion's width and the "torrid" time that it caused Everton.

Well done MOTD.

And a unanimous view on VAR overturning the penalty decision. 3-0. F u Dyche!
 


Washie

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Lineker: "It was the way they played in the wide areas..."
Shearer: "Watch the way he (Mitoma) drives through winning the ball...the turnover I thought from Brighton was magnificent..."
Hart: "Brighton provided so many options for the strikers..."

Plenty of praise from Shearer for Albion's width provided from Minteh, Mitoma and Adingra, and the "torrid" time that it caused Everton.

Well done MOTD.
Hart giving the goalkeepers perspective actually really helped show why positioning is so important for a goalkeeper and sometimes the "obvious" positioning is incorrect.
 






Wozza

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Lineker: "It was the way they played in the wide areas..."
Shearer: "Watch the way he (Mitoma) drives through winning the ball...the turnover I thought from Brighton was magnificent..."
Hart: "Brighton provided so many options for the strikers..."

Plenty of praise from Shearer for Albion's width provided from Minteh, Mitoma and Adingra, and the "torrid" time that it caused Everton.

Well done MOTD.

I often think back to the BBC's half-time coverage of Hughton's Albion v Man City FA Cup semi at Wembley (which I saw next-day).

Lineker, scoffing: "Cor, you wouldn't want to play up front in that team, eh Alan?"

We've come a long way, baby.
 










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If you read my posts, you'll see all I actually was saying initially is that VAR didn't implement the idea of "referee's call", despite making a lot of noise this week that this was the new high bar being set this season.

There was contact, because the players touched as both lunged for the ball. I don't think it was a penalty but it wasn't a gigantic error either as the ref was well-positioned and saw two players coming together. Supposedly we were going to live with that this season. It's a very tedious argument now - probably worse than VAR itself!

Really don't understand why you think VAR got it wrong.

The ref blew the whistle for a foul on DCL by Dunk because Mr Ref thought Dunk tripped DCL.

VAR reviewed it and seen that DCL trod on Dunks ankle and then had a fight with gravity (and lost).

So the refs thought, which was Dunk fouled DCL, was wrong.

How is this NOT a clear and obvious error not matter how high this fabled bar is?
 






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Just suffered the long trip from Lime Street to Euston near 4 entitled Everton fans who didn't stop spouting crap for the whole journey. Apparently their new stadium is far to small for a start as they have a 30k waiting list apparently.

Still it was a very enjoyable Euston platform to Victoria sing song
It’ll easily be big enough for the Championship
 


beorhthelm

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I know, as Dunk brought his left foot through. From the referee's angle it probably looked very much like Dunk swept his leg away and if Dunk hadn't made that movement, DCL probably wouldn't have stood on his foot. So, in my opinion, while it may have been an error, it wasn't 'clear and obvious'. Well aware other people will have a different opinion, that's football. As I said earlier it doesn't really square with PGMOL's stance this week on reducing VAR intervention, so I'll just repeat that here and then go to bed. Goodnight. Enjoy the win.

Howard Webb "“What we can do is is really focus on what VAR was always meant for. It was meant for those clear situations that would live large in the memory. It wasn’t meant to re-referee the game on small touches and little contacts and all those things that have created debate and discussion – leave those on the field."

There was contact, the ref saw it differently at the time, 'referee's call' wouldn't have been unreasonable.
reducing doesn't mean no intervention. this is what VAR is supposed to do, see the ref misread the contact and get them to review it. its not a case of minutely assessing who got a touch first or using 8 angles to show a player brushed the other.
 






Iggle Piggle

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Then there would be no point having VAR. This was a clear and obvious error, exactly what VAR was brought in for.
I get and agree with the logic but didn't think any logic would be applied today. Stockley park has made baffling decisions for years. When the guvner says "Do nothing as the referee's decision is final" I expected the guys on VAR to have a day off.

Luckily.for us, they decided to actually watch it.
 




GT49er

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If you read my posts, you'll see all I actually was saying initially is that VAR didn't implement the idea of "referee's call", despite making a lot of noise this week that this was the new high bar being set this season.

There was contact, because the players touched as both lunged for the ball. I don't think it was a penalty but it wasn't a gigantic error either as the ref was well-positioned and saw two players coming together. Supposedly we were going to live with that this season. It's a very tedious argument now - probably worse than VAR itself!
You're making the wrong argument here! VAR didn't overturn the referee's decision, as has so often happened in recent years of the disastrous and inept operation of VAR.
They thought the ref. might have got it wrong, so they asked the ref. to have a second look for himself. He did, and saw that his initial instinct was wrong, so rescinded the pen.

That's 'Umpire's call' working to perfection.
 


B-right-on

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I want to highlight what an utter tool and thug Tarkowski is.

That deliberate knee to the back of Pedro's neck was worth at least a yellow. It was absolutely disgusting from a real tosser of a player.

That he got one a few mins later for his hack at JP, shows that he had malicious intent.

He's up there with Fernandez, Kane and 3/4 of the Chelsea squad, as utter bellends.
 




Weststander

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You're making the wrong argument here! VAR didn't overturn the referee's decision, as has so often happened in recent years of the disastrous and inept operation of VAR.
They thought the ref. might have got it wrong, so they asked the ref. to have a second look for himself. He did, and saw that his initial instinct was wrong, so rescinded the pen.

That's 'Umpire's call' working to perfection.

I wonder if they should simply shortcut it like rugby union. Instructing Hooper; not a foul by Dunk, no pen, yellow card for Calvert for simulation.

That’d be my preference.

The pitchside TV thing is silly.

No one in rugby union claims refs have been undermined.
 




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