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[Albion] This transfer period and RDZ



Tom Hark Preston Park

Tom Hark Preston Park

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Jul 6, 2003
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Guinness Boy said:
There’s no chance Bloom will ever write an autobiography.

Just finished Rory Smith’s Expected Goals which is about data taking over football. Despite being the perfect club use case Brighton are mentioned three times in passing and Smith makes it clear Bloom won’t talk about it in any way.
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The unauthorised biography will be much more fun
 








Harry Wilson's tackle

Harry Wilson's tackle

Harry Wilson's Tackle
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Oct 8, 2003
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Guinness Boy said:
Nope. We got a reported around 5 million from Marseille.


We wouldn't have got it if he'd been sacked. Thus people repeatedly claiming he was sacked are undermining about 5 mill of TB's money.
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I did that, but for comedy purposes. Happy to desist if it is an issue.

(He was sacked though).
 








One Teddy Maybank

One Teddy Maybank

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Guinness Boy said:
Your usual complete lack of nuance and inability to be wrong about anything ever.

Perhaps you should re-read Pascal’s leaving note where he credits RDZ as the most influential coach he’s ever had. Then look at the Greenwood thread where every single Brighton fan is condemning that signing.

Then perhaps understand that libel applies to matters of fact (e.g. stating for a fact RDZ tried to sign Greenwood for Brighton is different to having an educated opinion that a player who’s not yet returned to running only has a 50/50 chance of playing Premier League football.)
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In a nutshell..
 


Bold Seagull

Bold Seagull

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Hugo Rune said:
There is no way RDZ would have been able to have conducted himself in the way he did (speech to the fans at the Amex etc) if he didn’t want to leave. In fact, he’d been threatening to leave for months. He’d have gone off like a nuclear bomb if he had have been sacked, he was not fully in control of his emotions.

It was one of the most mutual decisions I’ve ever seen in football.

I don’t know why a mutual separation is so unacceptable and unbelievable to some (other than NSC’s resident conspiracy theorist from a galaxy far, far away).
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Agree. I also think RDZ thought he was going to genuinely walk into one of the top European jobs on offer.
 




Bold Seagull

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um bongo molongo said:
And if you’re an ambitious young manager it’s better to leave by mutual consent than be sacked. So easy to see how the solution was arrived at.
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My take is;
RDZ saw some big vacancies coming up and didn’t want a big price tag on his head with TB demanding a compensation package.

TB wanted rid of a difficult manager but would rather not sack and pay out compensation to them.

So they met halfway or thereabouts, RDZ got to walk into another job without them put off by a large compensation figure, TB got rid of a manager he no longer wanted without paying out.
 


dwayne

dwayne

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Jul 5, 2003
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Marseille are snapping up proven talent. I have absolutely no idea where they are getting the money from !! They are signing exactly the type of players RDZ wants.

But will the likes of hoyberg and nketia really be arsed playing in the french farmers league ?
 


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Greg Bobkin

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I heard he kept asking where the cup final money was and when the monorail was going to be finished.

By May, big Tone had had enough and pulled the trigger.
 




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nickjhs

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Han Solo said:
Clubs very rarely technically sack a manager, because its dumb - why would you pay the entire remainder of the contract when you can hope for some other club to pick up the manager (either for compensation or if you let another club have him for free) and get rid of sometimes years of wages that way.

Graham Potter technically wasn't sacked from Chelsea either ,and if someone wants to hire him before his contract runs out, they're going to have to negotiate compensation with Chelsea. But we all Potter was sacked regardless of this fact. Just like hundreds of PL managers before him.

What do you suggest we change the "sacked the manager" terminology to since its currently virtually always incorrect by the technical definition you keep banging on about?
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Genuine question. Can you explain how mutual termination of a contract ( in the case of RDZ) and however it was framed with Potter means that the "terminating" club has a right to compensation if hired by another team? I am guessing that there would be clauses in the termination agreement?
 


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nickjhs

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Flounce said:
His record of turning down a number of fairly decent proposals as he lays back on his sun lounger, waiting for the England job, and receiving a decent monthly wedge whilst doing it accounts for his inactivity imo. I don’t think his Chelsea record has anything to do with it.
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I agree, as this wonderful paragraph from the Guardian explains he was entirely the wrong fit for Chelsea.

" In fact, he was so obviously the wrong fit it was tempting to squint in search of some brilliant masterplan just out of sight because this couldn’t be serious, could it? Here we had the ultimate slow-burn process manager, thrown into a chaos of panic-capitalism, shifting sands, eight mid-season signings, an acquisitions department touring the world like Father Christmas on crack."
 


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SurreySeagulls

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nickjhs said:
Genuine question. Can you explain how mutual termination of a contract ( in the case of RDZ) and however it was framed with Potter means that the "terminating" club has a right to compensation if hired by another team? I am guessing that there would be clauses in the termination agreement?
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FWIW - I think the terminology is that the club are mutually terminating his position as Head Coach, not as an employee of the club. Hence we will still pay his monthly salary and hold on to his registration so any club that wants to employ him have to pay a compensation fee as agreed for his registration. So Chelsea are still paying GP's monthly salary whilst his garden looks better than Dan Cashworth's.
 






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Han Solo

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nickjhs said:
Genuine question. Can you explain how mutual termination of a contract ( in the case of RDZ) and however it was framed with Potter means that the "terminating" club has a right to compensation if hired by another team? I am guessing that there would be clauses in the termination agreement?
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The actual contracts are rarely terminated, because its too expensive and too pointless to do that if you're the club. Its the job role that gets terminated. Assuming what we read in the papers a month ago is true, Chelsea are still paying Potter weekly meaning the contract wasn't terminated - meaning that if another club wants him, they'll have to negotiate compensation with Potter.

Same goes for Pochettino who was also sacked (or "mutually terminated", to save NSC from the fat lawsuit some were fearing...) and has another year left on his contract. Same goes for hundreds of managers out there who were sacked/mutually terminated from their clubs.
 


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