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[Politics] Voter Identification.









The Clamp

The Clamp

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Jan 11, 2016
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Kuipers Supporters Club said:
A Democratic state was the first to bring in ID laws.

You need ID to vote in almost every country in the world.
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And in theory, no problem.

But Tory’s have disallowed things like Young Person’s travel permits while allowing Senior travel permits.

A cleary targeted strategy to disenfranchise younger people and those less likely to vote Tory.
 


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Me Atome

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Mar 10, 2024
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My concern is the increasing use, and abuse (possibly) of postal votes. How are these controlled and kept secure?
 


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portlock seagull

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Jul 28, 2003
17,609
Me Atome said:
My concern is the increasing use, and abuse (possibly) of postal votes. How are these controlled and kept secure?
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Wouldn’t bother with that rabbit hole. How is anything. Just trust people know what they’re doing, it’s all worked very well to date.
 




nicko31

nicko31

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Jan 7, 2010
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Gods country fortnightly
Kuipers Supporters Club said:
A Democratic state was the first to bring in ID laws.

You need ID to vote in almost every country in the world.
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The problem we have is the Tories couldn't help use the opportunity to abuse their power, ie declare one ID type is good for the oldies but not for the young, also deliberately exclude legitimate forms of ID used by young people.

Anyway, all being well they'll be binned soon. Then Labour can amend the law
 


hans kraay fan club

hans kraay fan club

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Mar 16, 2005
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Bodian said:
Sorry - what do you mean??

www.theguardian.com

Boris Johnson turned away from polling station after forgetting to bring photo ID

Former PM made the requirement to bring photo ID a stipulation of the Elections Act in 2022
www.theguardian.com www.theguardian.com
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www.bbc.co.uk

Boris Johnson turned away from polling station after forgetting ID

The former prime minister returned later with the necessary ID and was able to vote.
www.bbc.co.uk

Johnson, rather than being too stupid / organised to 'remember' to bring his ID, more likely just assumed that the rules didn't actually apply to the likes of him - much like everything else.
 


C

CHAPPERS

DISCO SPENG
Jul 5, 2003
45,007
Painful conversation in front of me at the polling station between the person supposedly assisting people and an older gentleman trying to vote:

''Have you got your voters ID?''

''eerrr no, i haven't got that, do you mean my polling card''

''No, no your voters ID'

''Err, no, shall I go home and get it''

''Yes, you better if you don't haven't.

*gent turns to go home*

You mean you haven't got any ID with a photo on it''

''Like a driving licence, yes I should have''

''Okay then in you go, that should be fine''

Nearly stepped in. Why would someone call its Voters ID? The lack of awareness was something to behold.
 












Chicken Run

Chicken Run

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GT49er

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Bodian said:
www.theguardian.com

Voter ID rule may have stopped 400,000 taking part in UK election, poll suggests

Exclusive: 3.2% of those surveyed say they were turned away at least once, with minority ethnic people worse affected
www.theguardian.com www.theguardian.com
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"Relatively narrow list of permitted documents" - oh come on! This is Grauniad [sic] levels of bad research/reporting. The list is quite expansive. From the Government website:

"You’ll need one of the following types of photo ID to vote:
  • a UK or Northern Ireland photocard driving licence (full or provisional)
  • a driving licence issued by an EU country, Norway, Iceland, Liechtenstein, the Isle of Man or any of the Channel Islands
  • a UK passport
  • a passport issued by an EU country, Norway, Iceland, Liechtenstein or a Commonwealth country
  • a PASS card (National Proof of Age Standards Scheme)
  • a Blue Badge
  • a biometric residence permit (BRP)
  • a Defence Identity Card (MOD form 90)
  • a national identity card issued by the EU, Norway, Iceland or Liechtenstein
  • a Northern Ireland Electoral Identity Card
  • a Voter Authority Certificate
  • an Anonymous Elector’s Document
You can also use one of the following travel passes as photo ID when you vote:
The photo on your ID must look like you. You can still use your ID even if it has expired
 


RexCathedra

RexCathedra

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Jan 14, 2005
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A solution in search of a problem.
 




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London Irish

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Nov 25, 2003
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Voter suppression, am sure Labour will keep it as they will benefit from keeping the poor and ethnic minorities away from polling stations as much as the Tories
 


heathgate

heathgate

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Apr 13, 2015
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GT49er said:
"Relatively narrow list of permitted documents" - oh come on! This is Grauniad [sic] levels of bad research/reporting. The list is quite expansive. From the Government website:

"You’ll need one of the following types of photo ID to vote:
  • a UK or Northern Ireland photocard driving licence (full or provisional)
  • a driving licence issued by an EU country, Norway, Iceland, Liechtenstein, the Isle of Man or any of the Channel Islands
  • a UK passport
  • a passport issued by an EU country, Norway, Iceland, Liechtenstein or a Commonwealth country
  • a PASS card (National Proof of Age Standards Scheme)
  • a Blue Badge
  • a biometric residence permit (BRP)
  • a Defence Identity Card (MOD form 90)
  • a national identity card issued by the EU, Norway, Iceland or Liechtenstein
  • a Northern Ireland Electoral Identity Card
  • a Voter Authority Certificate
  • an Anonymous Elector’s Document
You can also use one of the following travel passes as photo ID when you vote:
The photo on your ID must look like you. You can still use your ID even if it has expired
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Crickey, that's narrow....🫣🥱
 
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beorhthelm

beorhthelm

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Jul 21, 2003
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once they've been in for a while, they'll be convinced it's much better to give everyone a National ID than repeal voter ID. give it ~9mth before its floated as a general benefit for all manner of things.
 


southstandandy

southstandandy

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Jul 9, 2003
5,956
After the previous general election I'm happy to show ID to vote. Last time out someone had got my name and address from the electoral role and voted 'as me' beofre I got down to vote later in the day. Spent nearly an hour trying to prove that hadn't been me, and was eventually allowed to vote with my electoral card and full ID which I had on me. Must say I didn't think this sort of thing happened much but apparently in my ward it used to happen approximately 50 times at each vote! Who knew?
 




nicko31

nicko31

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Jan 7, 2010
18,191
Gods country fortnightly
Hope Labour scrap it entirely, voter suppression by the Tories that didn''t work.

Instead stripped 1m+ of their vote
 




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