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[Football] Euros 2024 - Quarter Finals (England vs Switzerland, Netherlands vs Turkey)



Garry Nelson's Left Foot

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I wonder what Southgate will do for the next game. Does guehi come straight back in? He's done pretty well but so did konsa. Will shaw being back mean he wants to start him for yhe left footed balance and experience he'll bring? Or will he pit him at wing back? Back to a back 4?
 




Garry Nelson's Left Foot

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crodonilson said:
We've won one (1) game in the whole tournament in 90 minutes, and that was a turgid 1-0 victory. We didn't manage a shot on target until 80 minutes, and the last game we had one shot on target in the 95th minute. We've failed to score a goal in 5 games now between 15 minutes and 80 minutes.

Make no bones about it we've absolutely stunk the place out despite having the best attacking talent in Europe. However we are still in this tournament and given the goings on it does have that sort of feeling now that everything conspiring with us.
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I always find it a bit strange when you break character. A bit like when you're a kid and you see a teacher out of context.
 


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anygivensunday said:
England in this tournament remind me of that south park baseball episode. The one when the kids keep trying to lose because they're so bored but inadvertently just keep end up progressing to the next round.
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This is a brilliant analogy. One of my favourite SP episodes.
 


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If I were a sheik with unlimited billions to spend on my club team, like buying the entire England squad, I would be ... ahum ... slightly disappointed to watch them play like this. I know it's "tournament football" (or if you like, European Cup football) but they should be able to play better. I would have sacked more managers than Boehly by now. That said, you will probably win it all and Sir Southgate can retire in a month or two.
 


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Garry Nelson's Left Foot said:
I wonder what Southgate will do for the next game. Does guehi come straight back in? He's done pretty well but so did konsa. Will shaw being back mean he wants to start him for yhe left footed balance and experience he'll bring? Or will he pit him at wing back? Back to a back 4?
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Konsa was a clear level above Guehi in every facet. Would be madness to bring back Guehi.

But weren’t we poor at LB defensively? In ET, Shaw was nowhere as they created big chances down that side.
 




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Krafty said:
Netherlands is the first team we have faced in this competition which I would consider to be of a similar quality to England. That said, I would be surprised if England won against them.
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I’d still definitely take our squad over theirs. They’ve got a really strong defence, but the rest of their team isn’t that great (on paper)
 


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Garry Nelson's Left Foot said:
I wonder what Southgate will do for the next game. Does guehi come straight back in? He's done pretty well but so did konsa. Will shaw being back mean he wants to start him for yhe left footed balance and experience he'll bring? Or will he pit him at wing back? Back to a back 4?
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Personally I think Shaw has to start. The balance looked a lot better with a natural left footer at left back. Even a couple of times he got to the byline and stuck some crosses straight in. They came to nothing but it was a good sign of what could be to come
 


Butch Willykins

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Weststander said:
Konsa was a clear level above Guehi in every facet. Would be madness to bring back Guehi.

But weren’t we poor at LB defensively? In ET, Shaw was nowhere as they created big chances down that side.
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I’d stick with a back three and bring Konsa in for Kyle Walker. Then Luke shaw on left, Saka on right.

I can’t see Southgate changing anything tho.
 




Birdie Boy

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Swegulls said:
If I were a sheik with unlimited billions to spend on my club team, like buying the entire England squad, I would be ... ahum ... slightly disappointed to watch them play like this. I know it's "tournament football" (or if you like, European Cup football) but they should be able to play better. I would have sacked more managers than Boehly by now. That said, you will probably win it all and Sir Southgate can retire in a month or two.
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If we do win it, surely Southgate will stay on and win the World Cup next?
 


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Butch Willykins said:
I’d stick with a back three and bring Konsa in for Kyle Walker. Then Luke shaw on left, Saka on right.

I can’t see Southgate changing anything tho.
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Agreed but I’d play Trent AA on the right wing back and Saka higher as a winger
 


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France or England winning the tournament would be the biggest mockery of European football since the Greece win 20 years ago. Arguably even worse since they played like they had to rather than what they wanted to. Both France and England are playing a kind of football that would destroy the sport if it was the main way of playing it.
 








Randy McNob

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crodonilson said:
We've won one (1) game in the whole tournament in 90 minutes, and that was a turgid 1-0 victory. We didn't manage a shot on target until 80 minutes, and the last game we had one shot on target in the 95th minute. We've failed to score a goal in 5 games now between 15 minutes and 80 minutes.

Make no bones about it we've absolutely stunk the place out despite having the best attacking talent in Europe. However we are still in this tournament and given the goings on it does have that sort of feeling now that everything conspiring with us.
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Wow this is so deluded. cherry picking stats to make us look poor and/or lucky, then ending your post admitting our game plan is working

We played 2 teams in the knockouts who did not come to play football, theri game plan was to put everyone behind the ball and man mark our danger players, still won from losing positions which shows character

I bet you hated it when that 5th penalty went in
 






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BevBHA said:
I’d still definitely take our squad over theirs. They’ve got a really strong defence, but the rest of their team isn’t that great (on paper)
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crodonilson said:
We've won one (1) game in the whole tournament in 90 minutes, and that was a turgid 1-0 victory. We didn't manage a shot on target until 80 minutes, and the last game we had one shot on target in the 95th minute. We've failed to score a goal in 5 games now between 15 minutes and 80 minutes.

Make no bones about it we've absolutely stunk the place out despite having the best attacking talent in Europe. However we are still in this tournament and given the goings on it does have that sort of feeling now that everything conspiring with us.
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Krafty said:
Netherlands is the first team we have faced in this competition which I would consider to be of a similar quality to England. That said, I would be surprised if England won against them.
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Switzerland are ranked top 20 in the world, beat Italy comfortably, unlucky not to beat the Germans, the Swiss are a very good side
 


Randy McNob

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Shooting Star said:
Still got ITV on. Seeing Southgate lift Saka up after the game brought tears to my eyes. And then he goes over and embraces Dunky with Toney. Screw the haters, I love Gareth! 🥹
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I'm with you mate.

What amazes me is the haters say the same thing about England and Southgate, get it completely wrong, every time, yet come back and say the same things i.e. Southgate is clueless, England are clueless and/or lucky. All they do is show how little they understand football

It'll be the same if we beat the Dutch - it's boring having to read how clueless the haters are
 






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anygivensunday said:
England in this tournament remind me of that south park baseball episode. The one when the kids keep trying to lose because they're so bored but inadvertently just keep end up progressing to the next round.
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Garry Nelson's Left Foot

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Weststander said:
Konsa was a clear level above Guehi in every facet. Would be madness to bring back Guehi.

But weren’t we poor at LB defensively? In ET, Shaw was nowhere as they created big chances down that side.
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I think in ET we were playing with Eze as a left wing back and Shaw as the centre back. By that point we had Eze, Saka, Bellingham, Foden, Palmer and Toney on the pitch, I'm not sure we had any defensive shape left!
 


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