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[Politics] The NSC 'up all night' election night *** OFFICIAL MATCH THREAD ***



Uh_huh_him

Uh_huh_him

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Sep 28, 2011
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Mo Gosfield said:
I don't know the background of most of the Liberal and Reform candidates, so I am not prepared to make judgement calls like that.
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The lib dems had 522 Local councillors in the 2024 local elections - Reform had 2.
Just purely on an experience basis, It is pretty obvious that there is a bigger pool of experienced candidates.

The Lib dems are also along standing organisation with established selection/vetting processes.
Reform have been saying how difficult it was to get enough candidates to stand.

I would rather have experienced politicians in the house than a band of people who are held together by a party with a single policy agenda.
 




Paulie Gualtieri

Paulie Gualtieri

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May 8, 2018
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A1X said:
I get that it takes a while to get all the votes in from the Highlands and Islands, but WTF is going on in South Basildon and East Thurrock?
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Bozza

Bozza

You can change this
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Jul 4, 2003
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Eeyore said:
BBC saying now what I've been trying to express. Labour have not won this election. The Tories were despised and folk went to Labour because they were tired of them and thought Labour would be no worse. Reform helped them on their way.
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Professor Sir John Curtice on 5Live earlier this morning expressed the view that Labour didn't win, the Tories lost and bigtime.

In 2019, Labour got 10,269,051 votes, which was 32.!%.
Thus far, Labour have 9,650,254 votes, which is 33.8%.

I guess what we don't know is to what extent people moved their votes around in a way that largely cancelled out others doing the same, but it's difficult to get away from the view that Reform voters handed Labour a large number of seats.
 




Harry Wilson's tackle

Harry Wilson's tackle

Harry Wilson's Tackle
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Oct 8, 2003
54,774
Faversham
NorthstandRacoon said:
Yep. It is pretty obvious who she supports. Be impartial like you shoukd be ffs.
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I disagree. She was absolutely knifing tory interviewees last night. I can be a one-eyed Labour man, but I'd say she has a pop at everyone.

Anyway, f*** it.

Rejoice!!!!!!
 




Weststander

Weststander

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Aug 25, 2011
67,722
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Harry Wilson's tackle said:
No. A popular vote is not a mandate, when the other lot get an even bigger popular vote, which they did.

FPTP post kept Corbyn out. Good.

With the PR that Farage wants we would be waking up to a Tory-Refarm coalition this morning.

It is what it is (thankfully).

Happy that SNP have finally taken Independence off the table (by taking themselves off the table). Swinney now addressing this, 'accept . . . failed to convince on independence'. Result!
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With you, we’re the last FPTP stalwarts on nsc, stubborn f@ckers.

One of my reasons was to keep out extremes, unlike in France, Netherlands and Germany just now. FPTP prevented a further 87 Reform MP’s, job done.

But this is the biggest disparity of an overall majority vote share to MP’s in history, 33.7% of the vote delivered 64% of the Commons. Feels odd. Feels unfair, but I’m pleased Labour have a chance to mend.
 


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Bodian

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May 3, 2012
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Cumbria
Harry Wilson's tackle said:
No. A popular vote is not a mandate, when the other lot get an even bigger popular vote, which they did.

FPTP post kept Corbyn out. Good.

With the PR that Farage wants we would be waking up to a Tory-Refarm coalition this morning.

It is what it is (thankfully).

Happy that SNP have finally taken Independence off the table (by taking themselves off the table). Swinney now addressing this, 'accept . . . failed to convince on independence'. Result!
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Tory + Reform = 38%

Labour + Lib Dem = 46% (plus another 10% if you include Greens, SNP, PC)

More likely we'll have been waking up to a coalition of the latter?
 










Weststander

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Aug 25, 2011
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Berty23 said:
I had to turn over from the bbc because of her salivating over slating Labour all the time. Championing reform at every chance. Mocking Lib Dems. It was all a bit strange.

I think Sky and channel 4 had the best coverage. I kept having to switch from itv when Peston started - his style REALLY winds me up.
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(Reform hater here).

The BBC very recently explained their widespread Reform coverage and why Farage got so much air time. Viewers had emailed in angry about it. They explained that it’s in their charter. Because Reform pre election had a very sizable chunk of polling, they were compelled to.
 












vegster

vegster

Sanity Clause
May 5, 2008
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" Mortgage rates are falling " ? Not noticed this Rish ?
 


B

Bodian

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May 3, 2012
13,464
Cumbria
Weststander said:
(Reform hater here).

The BBC very recently explained their widespread Reform coverage and why Farage got so much air time. Viewers had emailed in angry about it. They explained that it’s in their charter. Because Reform pre election had a very sizable chunk of polling, they were compelled to.
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They didn't have a sizeable chunk of polling when they kept inviting him onto Question Time though.
 


Deportivo Seagull

Deportivo Seagull

I should coco
Jul 22, 2003
5,314
Mid Sussex
Weststander said:
(Reform hater here).

The BBC very recently explained their widespread Reform coverage and why Farage got so much air time. Viewers had emailed in angry about it. They explained that it’s in their charter. Because Reform pre election had a very sizable chunk of polling, they were compelled to.
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Really …. Do they just pick the bits that they like. Look at question time and the non entities from the right of the political spectrum that regularly turned up. It’ll be interesting to see what happens under a new chairman and DG considering the present pair are rabid brexiteers.
 








vegster

vegster

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May 5, 2008
28,186
Well, that was brief, a very short list of Sunak's greatest hits and then off.
 


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