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[Albion] Kiernan Dewsbury-Hall **Singed for Chelsea 02/07/2024**







kelvinnewman

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I know Chelsea are annoying but do people think if the only way they learnt about KDH being available was because people were tweeting about it?

And there’s no way agent might shop around their client?

Especially to their former manager at a club renowned for splashing their cash
 










Guinness Boy

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I agree to an extent, if I employ people to get deals done and they aren’t getting done then what’s the point of them.
KDH I’ve put two and two together and after reading Bozza’s take I can only assume RDZ helped his mate out in January and blew up the deal.

How is Fulham’s ex Academy manager now our recruitment specialist doesn’t make any sense.
The days of Ashworth & co seem a long time ago and it appears we have gone backwards. In that department.
Labelling every player a greedy dickhead when the deal collapses is an easy out for the club can do no wrong brigade.

The squad needs a lot of work the back end of last season is a glimpse of what life will be like if we don’t, relegation form.
I’m not sure who you mean by “his mate”. My take is slightly different. I totally believe what Bozza has said, but that includes the fact it was due to inaction rather than “an action”.

RDZ wanted a bigger squad (we were still in Europe with a stack of injuries and players away in Africa and Asia) rather than a specific player. We may just have offered him KDH and Barco. At that stage we still had Gross, Gilmour and Lallana who could play that advanced role, but no pivot. We were also three wingers and a right back down. I’d have been underwhelmed, frankly.

It also doesn’t make sense that KDH was an oven ready deal with the player happy to come here in January, but by June he’s only interested in staying at Leicester.
 


Mancgull

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Chelsea apparently insisting another player goes in other direction.

Summer if swaps continues
I don’t think Leicester are in a position to say no to a swap deal but it may not be easy to convince a London based player to go there on potentially a lesser contract.
My hope is that the deal collapses just before the deadline.
Not for him to come here as I don’t want him but just for the lols.
 


Weststander

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I’m not sure who you mean by “his mate”. My take is slightly different. I totally believe what Bozza has said, but that includes the fact it was due to inaction rather than “an action”.

RDZ wanted a bigger squad (we were still in Europe with a stack of injuries and players away in Africa and Asia) rather than a specific player. We may just have offered him KDH and Barco. At that stage we still had Gross, Gilmour and Lallana who could play that advanced role, but no pivot. We were also three wingers and a right back down. I’d have been underwhelmed, frankly.

It also doesn’t make sense that KDH was an oven ready deal with the player happy to come here in January, but by June he’s only interested in staying at Leicester.

Reading Leicester’s local rag at the end of January, their manager may’ve told the board KDH must stay.
 




Clive Walker

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My frustration is that we are in a unique situation which I fear we won’t take advantage of. On one hand we have a number of clubs that need to sell in the next 48hrs and on the other we have just reported record profits.

We seem to fail in the execution stage and saunter around transfers so much.

I fully expect us to have made zero signings by midnight Sunday.

We seem to fail more than we succeed in the last 12 months.
 


Weststander

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My frustration is that we are in a unique situation which I fear we won’t take advantage of. On one hand we have a number of clubs that need to sell in the next 48hrs and on the other we have just reported record profits.

We seem to fail in the execution stage and saunter around transfers so much.

I fully expect us to have made zero signings by midnight Sunday.

We seem to fail more than we succeed in the last 12 months.

I think it’s TB sticking to a proven data and odds based strategy. For example, if a selling club or agent made a late additional ££££ demand, exceeding what we’re prepared to pay we’d play hard ball.

Whereas a Chavs or West Ham would just cough up.
 


Clive Walker

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I think it’s TB sticking to a proven data and odds based strategy. For example, if a selling club or agent made a late additional ££££ demand, exceeding what we’re prepared to pay we’d play hard ball.

Whereas a Chavs or West Ham would just cough up.
I think that strategy may come at a cost.
 




Flounce

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There appears to be quite a bit of angst about player non signings on here at the moment. I’ll keep my powder dry until we haven’t signed anyone of note before the season starts before worrying too much. Dashed hopes in transfer windows are part of being an Albion fan :lolol:

A relegation battle is not the end of the world imo and our trajectory was always going to go into reverse at some stage. It MAY be this season :shrug:
 


Weststander

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There appears to be quite a bit of angst about player non signings on here at the moment. I’ll keep my powder dry until we haven’t signed anyone of note before the season starts before worrying too much.

A relegation battle is not the end of the world imo and our trajectory was always going to go into reverse at some stage. It MAY be this season :shrug:

:fishing:
 


Flounce

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You call it fishing I call it being a realist, we have lost so many players and important back room staff as well as the manager and taken a big gamble on the new one :shrug:

We will not being breaking the model, however disappointing that is given the profits being made.
 




dwayne

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My frustration is that we are in a unique situation which I fear we won’t take advantage of. On one hand we have a number of clubs that need to sell in the next 48hrs and on the other we have just reported record profits.

We seem to fail in the execution stage and saunter around transfers so much.

I fully expect us to have made zero signings by midnight Sunday.

We seem to fail more than we succeed in the last 12 months.
Agree

And I think if we take zero advantage of the ffp situation of some clubs by Sunday night I think we have failed again.
 


macbeth

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My frustration is that we are in a unique situation which I fear we won’t take advantage of. On one hand we have a number of clubs that need to sell in the next 48hrs and on the other we have just reported record profits.

We seem to fail in the execution stage and saunter around transfers so much.

I fully expect us to have made zero signings by midnight Sunday.

We seem to fail more than we succeed in the last 12 months.
exactly the same as last summer where we were in the unique situation of being able to offer european football and failed to take advantage of it
 




dwayne

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exactly the same as last summer where we were in the unique situation of being able to offer european football and failed to take advantage of it
Tbh don't think players care about the Europa league. £££ is all that matters.
 






Han Solo

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The take that the club is failing in the transfer market because a player prefers to go to a bigger club is a funny one.

There's a few people doing their outmost to portray the strategies and policies of this club as "flawed". I guess its a desire. Looking at the massively talented squad, the row of excellent league finishes, every big club wanting Brighton players, its of course a struggle to invoke the feelings of doom and gloom.

Any and every club make a number of bids every summer that leads to nowhere. Goes for us, goes for City.

You have to be quite desperate to turn that into something we're doing "uniquely wrong" or that failing to sign this rather meh midfielder will result in some sort of relegation battle.

Players will come. There's more than 2 months left of the transfer window. There's no "deadline on Sunday", its just an invention. We're not going to bail these clubs out through signing overvalued youngsters or mediocre PL players. As you may or may not have noticed, most non-crisis clubs aren't involved in these shady trades. Because they will be looked at later. And strenghtening their financial positions also isn't in our interest really.

Jakub Moder for KDH, of course its a bit of an upgrade and since the club seem to have the ambition to keep the core group of players British, it would have been interesting. But a much bigger shark showed up and we move on. There are 20 better midfielders we can get from Ligue 1 where they have no TV deal and everyone will be desperate to sell. Or in La Liga where most clubs are on their knees. People don't even want Dewsbury Hall, they just want a player.
 


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